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TaylorMade PSi Tour Irons Review

Published: 22 September 2015 Last updated: 08 April 2016

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• TG Rating 4 out of 5
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• RRP £899.00

What we say...

Created using direct input from TaylorMade’s tour staff, to ensure looks and feel suit the needs of the best players in the world. A muscle back design with thin sole and top edge and minimal offset. Fully forged from soft 1025 carbon steel with face slots and speed pockets in the 3-7 irons for consistent distance.

Our verdict:

To be fair to TaylorMade they do make it perfectly clear with their marketing that the PSi Tours are aimed at the seriously good player and we’d have to agree they are. Even in the hands of our test pro the data couldn’t lie, demonstrating beautifully how punishing the forged head with a weaker loft (#7 iron) is compared to the cast standard PSi. We saw an average 4mph drop in ball speed with the Tour which added up to 10 yards of carry distance.  Golfers of this calibre certainly aren’t worried about distance, but its worthwhile giving some thought to the performance trade-offs you’re making by getting your hands on such a beautiful looking set of irons.        

Bottom line:

A super looking set of irons that many good players will fall in love with. Yes there’s some slot and pocket tech to help maintain performance but trust us you need to strike it like Sergio to be using a set successfully.  

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Review: taylormade psi irons.

Pros:  Exceptionally long and forgiving players irons. They have thinner top lines, less offset and shorter blade lengths than TaylorMade’s RSi 2 irons, and feel noticeably softer at impact.

Cons: Performance is about the same as TaylorMade’s RSi 2 irons .

Who they’re for:  The PSi irons target golfers with handicaps from 0-13 who want more distance and forgiveness from their irons.

Performance is a relative term in iron design, particularly for the amalgamous category of clubs called “players irons” that TaylorMade’s new PSi irons occupy. Some players irons promise better performance in the way of more distance and forgiveness, while others boost the ability of golfers to manipulate trajectory.

The PSi long irons (3-7) are cast from 431 stainless steel. The short irons (8-PW) use 1025 carbon steel forged club hosels/faces, which are welded to 431 stainless steel bodies.

TaylorMade’s PSi irons seek to bridge the gap between those two types of irons, with a revamped construction that maintains the performance that made TaylorMade’s RSi 2 irons a leading performer in our 2015 Gear Trials: Best Players Irons list, while addressing the look, feel and size concerns that led golfers to consider offerings from other companies.

To test the PSi irons, we took them to the Launch Pad at Carl’s Golfland , where its team of Trackman Master Club Fitters hit them against TaylorMade’s RSi 2 irons. Both irons were tested in their stock configurations, with standard lofts, lie angles, and S-Flex shafts. For the PSi irons, the stock shaft is KBS’ C-Taper 105, while the RSi 2 irons used KBS’ 105 shafts.

Trackman tested outdoors. Results were normalized.

If you don’t speak launch monitor lingo, know that the results above are quite similar. So chances are, if you’re playing a set of RSi 2 irons and decide to purchase the PSi irons, you’ll see similar results as well. But there’s a lot to the PSi irons that won’t show up in launch monitor testing.

First of all, the PSi irons look different than the RSi 2 irons — not radically different, but different. The top lines are thinner throughout the set, and the composition is more progressive. What that means is that the long irons are comparatively larger than the rest of the PSi irons.

If you’re coming from a set of RSi 2 irons, you’ll notice that the size of the 3 and 4 irons is about the same, but the PSi mid irons and short irons have progressively shorter blade lengths and less offset. These changes will fit the eye of better golfers, especially those who want top-level distance and forgiveness from their long irons, but don’t need as much help with their scoring clubs. The change should help golfers hit the specialty shots they need from short range to setup more birdie chances.

A material called hybrar is mechanically lodged against the faces of the PSi irons to remove the undesirable vibrations that are typical of irons with extremely thin club faces.

Maybe the most important difference between the two sets of irons is the sound of the PSi irons at impact. They use a new multi-material Dynamic Feel System as part of their construction that creates a softer, quieter sound at impact that golfers tend to equate with better feel and more control.

Something particularly interesting for golfers torn between TaylorMade’s PSi and PSi Tour irons is a new TaylorMade design initiative, which was aided by a new Speed Pocket — a handle bar-shaped slot in the sole of the irons. The Speed Pocket was moved farther forward on the sole PSi irons, and cuts into the cavity of the irons. It creates a launch angle that’s roughly the same as the smaller, fully forged PSi Tour irons, which will be the irons of choice for many of TaylorMade’s PGA Tour staff players.

TaylorMade uses Speed Pockets (3-7 irons) and Face Slots (3-8 irons) to improve the flexibility of the club faces, which create more consistent ball speeds on shots contacted across the face.

For the first time in recent memory, however, the combination of the more forward Speed Pocket and the desire to match the launch angles of the PSi and PSi Tour irons resulted in a set of irons that uses weaker lofts than its predecessor. While the PSi 7 iron is 2.5 degrees stronger than the PSi Tour irons, it’s 0.5 degrees weaker than the same RSi 2 club.

TaylorMade uses 10-gram tungsten toe weights in the PSi 3, 4 and 5 irons to lower CG and improve MOI, leading to higher-launching, straighter-flying shots.

Another important upgrade for PSi is TaylorMade’s expanded custom shaft options, which allows golfers to upgrade to many of the most popular, taper-tip steel shafts at no extra cost. This is made possible because of TaylorMade’s decision to produce both taper-tip and parallel-tip versions of the PSi iron heads, which makes it easy for golfers to order combination sets of PSi long irons and PSi Tour short irons.

Keep in mind, however, that the tech-laden PSi irons will fly considerably farther than the PSi Tour irons, and loft adjustments could be needed to either the shortest PSi iron or the longest PSi Tour iron to create consistent gapping.

Read more about the technology in TaylorMade’s PSi and PSi Tour irons. 

The Takeaway

Eight-piece sets of PSi irons sell for $1099 with steel shafts, $1199 with graphite shafts.

The PSi irons create outstanding distance and forgiveness, in line with TaylorMade’s award-winning RSi 2 irons , but offer better looks, feel and expanded custom options. For that reason, they’re a top choice in the players iron category for golfers who want more yards, as well as better players who want to explore the possibilities that TaylorMade’s most advanced irons to date can bring to their games.

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22 Comments

Jim Jennings

Sep 11, 2017 at 11:38 am

I am looking for a set of 8 replacements stickers for the back of my Taylormade Psi Irons. Some of mine came off the rest look bad because the lost the print. I will pay for them.

Apr 3, 2017 at 12:00 pm

Best set of irons I have hit in a long time. Nice fit between players and GI. I play off an 11 and these fit me perfectly. I should get a backup set just to have once I wear these out.

Nov 11, 2015 at 6:35 pm

Irons should be described by lofts, not by numbers.

Nov 14, 2015 at 1:43 am

So flight, feel and performance is irrelevant? That is actually what you’re saying…

Mar 28, 2017 at 10:00 am

I see the OEM’s have taken your suggestion to heart!

Nov 11, 2015 at 2:16 pm

Golf is not like what your daddy played, just like the world not the same when your daddy played.

Oct 27, 2019 at 1:24 pm

Thats not what your mommy said about your daddy! LMAO

Tony Robeets

Nov 11, 2015 at 12:33 pm

So everyone is gripping about a review on a “players club” not having enough average golfers to test them. These clubs aren’t fur average golfers they are for low handicap golfers. 4 and below. Sure go ahead and get these based on not having data for an average golfer and not having a high enough swing speed. Never hit the center of the club face twice with the same club in the same round. Then gripe about not being able to hit a green with them and needing 5 wedges. But you’ll have the same clubs in your bag as Jason Day so that’ll count a lot when your paying off to everyone in the 19th hole.

Nov 9, 2015 at 10:58 am

It seems like TM is always searching for that iron that will be a game changer. I just don’t see it happening. In the “players irons” category, IMO TM has been passed by Cobra now, let alone Titleist and Ping.

Nov 7, 2015 at 6:46 am

They look like Wal-Mart clubs. Can you get them at Wal-Mart?

Nov 6, 2015 at 8:06 pm

$1299 for Graphite

Nov 6, 2015 at 8:03 pm

I hit them, great performance. They are just too ugly though, very Plain Jane cheap looking decals on the back…..looks like a proto-type waiting for a real design.

Again, they perform well though.

Nov 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm

133 ball speed @ 13.1 launch @ 4339 spin with stock shaft seems low. I would much earner see the landing angle in the 50’s.

Zak Kozuchowski

Nov 6, 2015 at 8:50 pm

Thanks for the comment, Billy. Our testing results are simply meant for head-to-head comparison purposes. We’re not saying that these are optimal numbers, and in this case these testers were not fit for these clubs before hitting them.

killerbgolfer

Nov 6, 2015 at 11:57 am

These seem like great sticks. TMAG has been struggling this year it with layoffs coming agian. I hope these help.

Nov 6, 2015 at 11:36 am

I’m being put-off by the club reviews on this site. They seem like ego-stroking wastes of time for the average golfer (even for the tour pros at times).

Take for example the 7-iron hit here by golfer #1: A 204 yard carry with a ball speed of 133mph. The tour averages are 172y and 120mph, respectively, according to Trackman. That’s 32 yards or almost THREE CLUBS farther than the average tour pro. Now the 3* less of average loft might have something to with that but honestly how many golfers are averaging 130+ ball speeds and maintaining any sort of strike consistency.

The only thing bringing these numbers down to earth is the 3000rpm less of average spin and ~20* of decent angle compared to the pros. The landing angle and spin numbers are on par with the pros average 5-WOOD! Good luck holding any sort of green.

They should offer these clubs in a set of 3 clubs and give you the rest in a coupon toward the 5 wedges you’re going to have to carry.

Until you get someone that isn’t besting TOUR AVERAGES across all clubs I’m voting shank on every review.

Nov 6, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Huh? You start off saying the test subject wasn’t fair. Then you start going on about too many wedges.

1. The lofts are weaker than prior – that’s stated. So that reduces the loft causing the too many wedges problem.

2. What does less ball speed mean to a review? It doesn’t impact anything, other than show you lower numbers. In fact – reviews like this are pointless other than pictures and stats about the physical measurements and maybe opinion on look and feel because everyone produces different numbers and you shouldn’t even reference those charts.

3. It’s still useful if you’re intent on reading it because it gives a comparison between an older set.

I’m really not sure what your beef is. It’s not 3 clubs better, it’s roughly 2 clubs, or 1.5 clubs than a tour pro. And remember that’s an average. Lots can hit a 6i further – but you said it right – the lofts change the club – and that’s nothing new.

Even if the reviewer produced similar ball speed to you-it doesn’t mean he/she would produce the same spin rate, angle of decent and launch angle – so I don’t see why you care so much about one factor when even if it was in your wheelhouse, the data is still basically irrelevant.

Nov 12, 2015 at 10:19 am

Then don’t read. I grew up playing forged blades that most golfers nowadays couldn’t get airborne. I couldn’t come close at my current age and swing speed.Equally these PSI irons are no longer a fit for my game. But I like reading about the technology. I’m not a car buff but I’m willing to wager that most subscribers to Road and Track will never drive let alone own a Lamborghini. Lighten up.

ShankN3Jack

Nov 6, 2015 at 9:05 am

What kind of guerrillas did you have testing these clubs? 204 yard 7-irons?!!! They must carry 6 wedges.

DatSliceDoe

Nov 6, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Well, its really a 6 iron. However, that is still a long way for a 6 by most people’s standards. Would be nice to have an 8-12 hdcp testing these clubs alongside a wrxer-pro.

Nov 6, 2015 at 8:34 am

i hit a 7i last night at golfsmith. the ball flew far…really far. consistently 15ish yards farther than may titleist 7i. then i started looking at the clubs and specs, shaft was 1 inch longer and loft was much stronger. so not really an apples to apples comparison. the ball felt really soft coming of the psi face almost weirdly soft and im not sure if i liked it or not. but these do as advertised, they are long. i didnt hit them enough to get a gauge on forgiveness.

Large chris

Nov 6, 2015 at 4:19 am

As for other Trackman iron tests done in the past couple of months, really appreciate the effort to put actual comparison numbers up…. But same problem as before, tester one in particular has a very high swing speed but launches it very low and with far too little spin (6000rpm with a 9 iron, normal recommendation would be 9000). If there was any chance for one or two testers to be used who were more ‘regular / average’ type players the test results would be more indicative for more of us.

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Club Junkie

Club junkie review: cobra’s new king tour irons.

The Cobra King Tour irons have been proven on the PGA Tour already and will be in bags of better amateur players this year. The previous King Tour MIM irons were very underrated and offered great precision with a solid shape that many players liked. Cobra went away from the Metal Injection Molded construction and went with a five-step forging process for soft and solid feel.

Make sure to check out the full podcast review at the links below and search GolfWRX Radio on every podcast platform.

I was a big fan of the previous Tour MIM irons and played them in rotation throughout the last two years. Out of the box, I was impressed with the more simple and clean look of the badging on the new King Tour. Badging is mostly silver with just small black accents that should appeal to even the pickiest golfers. I didn’t notice the shorter blade length in the new irons but did notice that the leading edge is just slightly more rounded. Topline is thin, but not razor thin, but still has enough there to give you the confidence that you don’t have to hit it on the dead center every shot.

Feel is solid and soft with just a slight click to the thud on well struck shots while mishits are met with a little more sound and vibration to the hands.

These King Tour irons are built to be cannons and place more emphasis on consistent and precise shots. I also felt like the new irons launch easily and maybe a touch higher than some irons in the same category.

My launch monitor showed my 7 iron with an average launch angle of 22 degrees and spin right around 5,800 with a Project X LZ 6.0 stock shaft. Ball speed isn’t the ultimate focus of this iron but it did well with an average around 108mph and the iron was able to keep the speed up well when you didn’t strike the center. You will still see a drop off in speed and distance when you miss the center, but you don’t have to be Navy SEAL sniper accurate on the face to achieve a good shot. Dispersion was very tight, and while there are bigger irons with more forgiveness, this players cavity still allows good playability when you aren’t bringing your A-plus game to the course.

Cobra lists the King Tour as an iron for a Tour level player up to a 7 handicap and I think this iron could see the bags of more golfers than that. I am a 9.4 handicap, and I felt more than comfortable playing this iron even on less than perfect days.

Review: Honma TW737-Vs Forged Irons

Pros:  Incredible feel all the way through the bag. These irons offer considerable forgiveness on mishits, and their slightly stronger lofts generate plenty of distance for a better-player forged iron.

Cons:  Some will find the price point ($150 per club) too high to consider.

Bottom Line:  The entire TW737 line boasts impressive specs and looks. The TW737-Vs, with their slightly larger shape and stronger lofts, could be perfect for the player ready to move from game-improvement irons to better players irons or for those those looking for more forgiveness in a forged set.

Many GolfWRX Members will already be familiar with Honma Golf, known for its intricately crafted clubs and as one of the most prestigious, fastest-growing golf brands in the world. For others, this review will be the first time they’ve heard of Honma, or seen their iconic “mole in a hole” cloisonné and wondered, “What’s that?”

That is about to change. Honma, a mainstay in the Japanese Domestic Market for almost 60 years, is making a major push to become a household name in the U.S. and Europe. This year marks the company’s first entry into national “Hot List” competitions, and you can now find and test some of their products, such as the TW737 irons, in big-box golf stores like the PGA Superstore.

While Honma has traditionally been associated with extremely high-end clubs —  even gold-plated at times — the Tour World line is priced similarly with other forged irons from domestic manufacturers. Tour World also happens to be the line played by their tour pros like Hideto Tanihara , who has the TW737-Vs in his bag.

Related: More photos of Honma’s Tour World irons, driving irons and wedges

There are three unique models in the Tour World 737 line, each with slight variations in loft and head shape that are designed to fit the specific needs of forged-iron users. Each model includes Honma’s unified face progression and center of gravity design, which essentially allows for slight changes in sole width, face thickness, and head size based on loft, while keeping the same offset. The design is great in and of itself, and it also makes it easier to play a Tour World combo set.

The entire TW737 iron line is forged from S25C steel using Honma’s proprietary high strength W-Forging , a two-stage forging process that mixes hot and cold forging. According to the company, the process creates more density in the club face, especially high on the face. The extra strength is said to increase ball speed and forgiveness.

• The TW737-Vn  is made particularly for better golfers who like the shape and workability of a blade, but want a little more forgiveness.
• The TW737-V  has a small cavity-back head, but adds a little more forgiveness and distance than the Vn.
• The TW737-Vs , the model I tested, has a slightly larger head and strongest lofts, making it the longest and most forgiving of the three forged irons in the TW737 lineup.

You can find all the  specs on the Honma site here .  The TW737-Vs specs are below.

TW737-Vs irons are available now in 3-11 ($150 per club). A variety of stock shafts are available and include the NS Pro 950GH, Dynamic Gold AMT, Modus3 Tour, and Vizard 160. Honma has a  retailer search on its site  to help you find nearby golf stores where you can check out these clubs for yourself. Of course, custom shaft and grip options are available.

My set of TW737-Vs

I decided on the TW737-Vs because I wanted the extra performance and forgiveness. Honma built a 3-11 iron set, standard length, 0.5-degrees upright with Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Compound grips and two wraps of tape.

Having played cast, game-improvement irons my entire golfing life, I was anxious to see how these clubs would look at address, feel at impact and most importantly, how they would perform for my swing. In recent years, I have been using a forged Vega wedge, also an iconic Japanese brand. I love the feel, so I was excited for these.

You might be wondering, “Why test against a cast club and not compare Honma to Honma or Honma to Miura?” One reason is that like many of you, I’m precisely who Honma is looking to attract — a US-based consumer who has been playing mostly domestic clubs.

Take it one step further, I’ve also been looking to put forged clubs in the bag and make the move to the better-player iron category, but I was hesitant for a variety of reasons. I mentioned to a few other golfer that I was reviewing this set and their reaction was the same. Are they blades? Are they small? Are they hard to hit? All responses were followed by, “I don’t think I’d be ready for forged clubs.”

After testing I can tell you the irons are not too small, not too hard to hit, and stack up to anything else I’ve tested.

Performance

I like to start testing outside before getting on a launch monitor so I can focus purely on what I’m seeing and feeling. And with these clubs, my expectations were high, very high.

I started with the 11-iron because… how often do you get to hit a club stamped with an 11? I’ve always taken a significant divot with my wedges, but my first swing resulted in a solid, crisp shot with a thinner divot. Everything about the shot felt perfect. This happened to be a center strike and impact felt like almost nothing at all… in a good way. The sound was solid and strong, but the first real feeing I registered was slicing through the turf.

That feeling continued even with the long irons. Hitting a 3 or 4-iron around the middle provided plenty of feedback, but the more pure the strike, the less feeling there was. The ball flight appeared to be slightly lower than my current set, with a straight-to-draw flight and similar distances. Working the ball both ways was not a problem.

On the course, I struggled with distance control at first. This was my own fault for not dialing in the distances, especially with the stronger lofts in the 7-iron and shorter clubs. My expectation was that these clubs would not fly as far as my current clubs, but I couldn’t have been more wrong.

The exceptional feel continued. Truly effortless power on center strikes. The ball just jumped off the face and provided plenty of feedback and forgiveness. My divots from fairway lies were thinner than normal, which I don’t mind at all. These clubs cut through the rough nicely as well.

My favorite moment came at an island-green par-3, No. 16 at BridgeMill Athletic Club. I had 160 yards to the pin, with 150 yards covering the water and 175 yards to the water at the back of the green. With my old set, it would have been a smooth 8-iron (a full 9-iron is a reliable 145 yard carry). For me, the TW737-Vs 9-iron is essentially an 8.5-iron, so I went with 9-iron and played to the center with a little draw. I hit one of the most solid shots of the day, and it landed just a few feet away from the pin. Trusting a 9-iron would be enough… now that was fun.

Launch Monitor Data

My expectation going into launch monitor testing was that I’d see a flatter trajectory, lower peak height, similar distance and spin, and a decent amount of help on mishits.  I tested the TW737-Vs on SkyTrak against my TaylorMade RSi 2’s using Bridgestone Tour B330 balls. I rotated clubs every 5 shots and went through multiple rounds with each club.

The launch monitor data backed up what I was seeing on the course. For the short and mid irons, the Honmas generated slightly more distance (not less as I expected prior to testing). The 9-iron had the biggest gap, but the TW737-Vs is also 2 degrees stronger.

Spin was lower, but I was also seeing slightly more draw bias to my shots. While the spin looks a little low, on the course I had no issues stopping the ball on approach shots. With the long irons, my flatter trajectory always forces me to play for a little roll, so that won’t change.

I’ve never been a high ball hitter. My swing produces a lower flight and I’m sticking with it. Not surprisingly, my launch angle and peak height with the TW737-Vs was slightly lower across the board.

Ball speed on heel and toe side of center dropped about 2 mph on average, but the shots were very playable. With the 3 and 4-irons, toe shots generated quite a bit more left spin, but heel shots didn’t really impact the flight.

For shots higher on the face, I was very surprised and happy to see a minimal loss of distance. All in all, these clubs are very playable and forgiving on shots that miss the dead center of the clubface.

Looks and Feel

Feel is subjective, but I love the way these clubs feel. There is a nice weight through the swing. The W-Forging process has created a strong face that fires balls off like little rockets. Some other irons have a spring-like feel at impact, but with these, center shots just seemed to melt into my hands.

I spent a lot of time using powder spray on the face to see the exact impact location. With other irons I’ve tested, it is easy to know if I hit the extreme toe or heel side. But with the TW737-Vs, I was able to feel if I was half a ball to the heel or toe side. Same with being low on the face or a few grooves high. Both better players and mid-handicap golfers looking to improve will appreciate the feedback these clubs provide.

As for looks, “These are beautifully simple” was my first thought when I saw them in person. The lines are clean and sharp in some areas and smooth and rounded in others. The head, while definitely smaller than what I’m used to, doesn’t feel or look too small. I don’t have any confidence issues looking down at the ball.

Each of the TW737 models have the same minimal amount of offset, creating a relatively straight edge from the shaft out to the toe. I find it easier to set up and align clubs with less offset, so I like this a lot. I wouldn’t call the top line thin, but it isn’t thick either. Overall, I just really like how these irons look at address.

Bottom Line

Honma might not be the first name most Americans think of when they think of forged irons. That is going to change… not just because Honma will be spending more money to reach golfers in North America, but because the company’s Tour World line is both beautifully crafted and packed with performance.

If you’re in the market for forged players irons, make sure the TW737 is on the list of clubs to hit.

GolfWRX Member Reviews: TaylorMade 2017 M1 and M2 Irons

One of the many benefits of being a GolfWRX Forum Member is exclusive access to Giveaways and Testing Threads. For Giveaways — we give away everything from golf clubs to golf balls to GPS units — all it takes is a forum name. Enter any Giveaway, and we select winners randomly. You’re then free to enjoy your prize as you wish.

For Testing Threads, the process a bit more involved. GolfWRX Forum Members sign up to test the latest and greatest products in golf, and then they provide in-depth reviews on the equipment. Being the intelligent golf-equipment users they are, GoflWRX Members are able to provide the most-informed and unbiased reviews on the Internet.

In this Testing Thread , we selected 75 members to test a TaylorMade M1 2017 7-iron and TaylorMade M2 7-iron. Each of the clubs were built with the stock lofts and shafts — M2 2017 (28.5 degrees) with a TaylorMade Reax shaft, and M1 2017 (30.5 degrees) with a True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 shaft — and the testers were instructed to post their review of the clubs here .

Below, we’ve selected what we’ve deemed the most in-depth and educated reviews out of the 75 testers. We have edited each of the posts for brevity, clarity and grammar.

Thanks to all of those involved in the testing!

• All 75 Reviews: TaylorMade M1 and M2 Testing Thread
• Tech Talk: What you need to know about TaylorMade’s M1 and M2 irons

To be honest, looking down on the TaylorMade M1 and M2 irons at address, there is really not much difference. I would have to pick one up to see which is which.

The first 10 balls I hit were with M1 and 6/10 felt great, while the other 4 were toe hits, which I felt and the distance reflected that. Kinda what I expected with a club design for lower-handicap players. Distance was about 1/2 longer than my Srixon iron and dispersion was close, as well. I will say they did not feel as good as the Srixon on center hits.

Next 10 (ok, 15) balls were with the M2. Wow, can you say “up, up and away? The ball really popped of the club face, but wasn’t a ballon flight. Waited for the ball to come down and WTH, with the roll out it was 5-8 yards longer than balls hit with M1, and that is with a few toe shots. I did some smooth swings and then very aggressive swings and was a little amazed at this iron. Just like the M1, it does not have the forged feeling and does have a clicky sound (which I hate).

Bottom line: M2 is the longest iron I have ever hit. I love my 545s, but I could see myself playing M2 very easily. Matter of fact, I will be taking this M2 7 iron in my bag and play it more head-to-head against my Srixon 545 on the course.

deathbymuffin

These are both beautiful clubs. What surprised me the most is how much alike the two clubs look at address. I was expecting a chunky topline and significant offset in the M2, but it’s footprint looked almost exactly the same as the M1, outside of the chrome finish on the M2 versus the frosted finish of the M1. The M2 could almost pass as a player’s iron to my eye at address. These clubs both get A’s from me in the looks department.

The M1 felt a tad thicker than most player’s irons I’m used to, but it seemed to come with a bit of added forgiveness too. Well-struck shots felt good, with a nice mid-trajectory and with the workability that I’ve come to expect from a player’s iron. But true to TaylorMade’s claims, the M1 seemed more forgiving than a traditional player’s iron. Had a nice soft feel at impact, mishits didn’t sting and left you with a more playable result. A really nice combination of the better attributes of both player’s and game improvement irons. I’ve been playing with an old set of Tommy Armour blades, but I’ve been recently wanting more forgiveness for when I’m stuck with my B or C swing. Based on the early returns, I could definitely see myself bagging these.

I’m not sure if it’s the shaft, the design of the clubhead, or a combination of both, but the M2 is definitely a different animal than the M1 at impact. This club launches the ball high, arguably ridiculously so. I was hitting Jason Day moonbombs with this bad boy. Didn’t seem to matter what kind of swing I put on it, the ball launched high, flat and dead straight. The club was super forgiving and if not for the insanely high ball flight, I would love to have a set of these for when my swing is out of sorts. I didn’t really try to flight it at all, so I’m not sure what it’s capable of at this point. One other note was that the M2 had a clicky feel at impact. It didn’t bother me since it still felt so sweet… so strange as it sounds, clicky, but smooth and sweet at the same time. I think these clubs will be big winners with the mid-to-high handicap set.

The M1 is a fine iron, but doesn’t really stand out in any way from other irons of its class.

The M2, on the other hand, is an iron on steroids. I’m really starting to love this thing. It’s super forgiving and just goes and goes. According to my laser, flush shots were going 195 yards (my usual blade 5 iron distance) and very high. I can’t help but think golf would be a whole lot easier, particularly longer courses with long par 3s, with a full set of these in my bag.

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M1 feels softer than the M2 and I felt the ball flight was more consistent and what I want in an iron. The M1 did have a harsher feeling in my hands than I typically like, but I’m going to credit a lot of that to the range balls.

M2 flies very high. It was a windy afternoon and about 100 degrees. I love the high ball flight on the range, but I have a concern what that ball flight would be like on the course. I like to hit the ball different heights for different shots and I don’t think I could do that confidently with the M2, but I could with the M1. I don’t like the sound of the M2. It sounded “clicky” to me.

Initially on the range I was scared because the M1 had a regular flex in it, so I took it easy for my initial 10-15 swings with it. Ball SHOT off the face, loud crack (didn’t care for it, but not too bad) and ball just kept rising and rising but didn’t balloon. I thought, “whoa,” that’s not what I expected…did it again…another CRACK and the ball just flew. I set another down and I paid attention to how it looked behind the ball, not much offset for a game improvement and I thought…”I could actually play this club!”  The 5-7 were EASY swings, aimed at a target of 170 yards away (my normal 7 iron distance) and with a EASY swing I was flying it by 20 yards or so. The next 5-10 I really went after it, same CRACK and ball just flew but to my surprise it was a nice draw, harder draw than the first but it was a nice 10-yard draw. This time the balls were landing just short of the 200 yard marker. Damn, 200 yards with a 7 iron! I know they are jacked lofts but it feels good to say “my 7 irons just few 190-200 yards!”

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Now, this was interesting, the M2 was quieter then the M1… weird!  Now, there is more carbon fiber added to this one and there is a “Geocoustic” label on the back. I am sure that it has something to do with all that carbon fiber but it does have a better sound. Other than the sound, it played exactly like the M1: long and straight. The REAX shaft felt a little weaker than the True Temper shaft and it flew a little higher but nothing else I could pick up.

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Finally got out to the range after getting these bad boys in on Friday. My first impression of them is that they look really sharp. The graphics and design really stand out and really give these clubs a cool, modern look.

They were both a little to big IMO, as I am currently bagging Mizuno MP-68s. The M2 isa definite “game improvement iron”, while the M1 was similar in size and shape to my previous irons, Titleist AP1s.

They both really launch it, high and far. Ridiculous for 7 irons. I don’t have access to a launch monitor, but it was about a 20-yard difference between my gamer 7 iron and these (stronger lofts, as well).

The M1 definitely was more suited for my eye, and produced more consistent ball flights. It felt much more smooth and solid as the M2 had a clicky, cheap feel.

The M2 just isn’t for me. I felt like it was launching too high and ballooning, which could be due to the shaft (the M1 had the S300, while the M2 just had a stock “Reax” shaft).  The feel off the face of the M2 just turned me off, to be honest.

While I don’t think I’ll be putting either model in play, I can definitely see the appeal for mid-to-high handicaps. Both irons were super forgiving, and they should be a dream to the average weekend golfer who has trouble with ball striking consistently.

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Looks: As expected, I preferred the M1 with less offset, slightly smaller sole and a smoother finish. Less glare looking down on the iron. I must say the M2 did not look as bulky, or have as much offset as I thought it might have.

Feel: This was a close race, probably due to the shafts as much as the heads. The M1 was just a slight bit smoother feeling on solid shots. But the M2 was not bad at all, just not quite as smooth.

Distance and performance: Our range has a slight incline up the length of the range, so specific yardage gains or losses were difficult to measure. Both irons had a higher trajectory than my gamer 7 iron. Neither sole dug onto the turf either. The lofts for both irons are a degree or two stronger than mine, so I would think they probably flew a little further than my gamers. Neither iron flew “too” high, however. Might be a little harder to hit knock down shots, though.

Final thoughts: I had hit both the M1 and M2 irons last year during a fitting day, but did not like either. This year’s model were both better in my eyes. I asked a fellow member at our club to hit both and he felt the M1 was his preferred model, and he is a 20-index player. So coming from both a single digit, and a high double-digit, the M1 won this battle of wills. I will try and see if I can locate both a 5 iron and 9 iron to see if a full set might be a winner for me.

I was surprised that the M2 was the winner in this brief session. It felt better, flew higher, easier to hit and about 1/2 club longer that my gamer Apex CF16. The feel/sound was better than I thought it might be, but really not up to the CF16. I could, however, easily game the M2’s.

Feel: I hit the M2 first, and found it to be very solid when hit on the screws. There was almost no feel off the club face at all. When I mishit it, you knew it was, but it wasn’t harsh at all. Hit the M1 next, and same type of feel when hit solid. Much more harsh when mishit though, but I knew that was coming.

Distance and performance: This is was where I was curious to see how they would play. The M2 went out high in the air, and just kept going forever. Now granted my eyesight isn’t that great anymore, but it looked like I got about 10-15 yards more from the M2 compared to my Wilson D300. The only thing I didn’t like about the M2 was how much I was able to turn it over. Got a lot more hook compared to my D300. Don’t know if that was from the REAX shaft, but would love to find a less spinning shaft to correct that.

The M1 wasn’t a great performer for me. Same height as the M2, but much straighter off the club face. Didn’t get any great distance advantage as compared to my D300.  Can’t game a player’s iron anymore, and testing this one just reaffirmed that.

Final thoughts: Was very happy with the distance I gained with the M2 compared to my current gamer. Very good-performing iron for me, and something I would definitely consider changing them out if I could reduce the spin off the face. If you’re looking for more distance, you need to try these out.  The M1 just wasn’t for me, but as a player’s iron, I can see it as a great option.

Like the other testers, I found the M2 to launch the ball much higher and is 10-to-15 yards longer than my Adams XTD forged 7 iron. Of the two 7 irons I prefer the M1. I like the design of the M1 and its visual appearance at address. I feel more confident in trying to work the ball with the M1. The M1 gave me more feedback as to where the club head was in relation to my swing plane. If I had my druthers I would put the M1 in the bag as it stands now. Will continue to test, what a treat to compare the two irons.

Once I started making solid contact with a decent shoulder turn, the M2 really came alive in my hands. Towering flat height, for me, and very long. No more clacky hollow feel, just a very mild pleasant sensation… then zoom. Once I started making better swings, back to the M1, which was a very nice iron. Shorter than the M2 (though not short) and a little lower ball flight. Felt nice and substantial without being heavy. Very forgiving on slight mishits.

But the M2 was the star for me. High trajectory and very long. Club felt lively and fun. Frankly, unless a player wanted a lower trajectory, or likes to hit a lot of knock downs or feel shots, I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t choose the M2. They are very attractive and a very fun iron. I think folks who say that the M2 feels and/or sounds clicky, clacky or hollow may be mishitting the iron toward the toe. I am not judging — I mishit a lot of shots at first. I agree on toe mishits the iron did not feel great. It almost felt like plastic. The ball still flew pretty well, but it wasn’t a very enjoyable experience. Not painful, just felt very dead. But when hit nearer the center, the iron felt fantastic. Light, springy and very lively. 

They are both good-looking clubs. Not too long heel to toe and toplines were not that distracting. M1 is more what I like to see shape wise, but M2 was not bad at all. Personally, not a fan of seeing the face slots. But I could see how some people may like how they frame the ball. 

– Has a very odd sound on contact, almost sounds a tad like a fairway wood “ting. Not a fan – Looks very good at address with the brushed finish – Most shots I hit with it seemed to fall out of the sky (very likely a lack of spin). Ball flight was much lower than I would have expected (not super low, just not much different than my 7 iron) – Inconsistent misses. Next to no distance gains vs RocketBladez Tour 7 iron

– Doesn’t look as good at address as the M1. Chrome finish at address is  not  an issue in even direct sunlight for me – Feels and sounds quite nice to my ears at impact. Not a classic sound but very good considering what type of club it is – Ball flight is very strong (comes off hot). Ball stays high in the air for awhile. Very high and lands soft – 10-12 yards longer on average vs my 7 iron, it even had the horsepower to hang with my 6 iron – VERY forgiving on thin strikes. Couldn’t believe how a near-top still traveled to nearly the front edge in the air and still went as far as the M1 did on a good strike – Shaft is too light

Even though I’m a 2-handicap and don’t fit the M2 “mold,” I could see myself playing this club from 4-6 iron (although gapping would be a major issue mixing these with almost anything else) if it had a heavier shaft in it (I can only imagine how far this 4 iron must go… yikes)

M1 = 2.5/5 stars M2 = 4.5/5 stars

Visual first impressions:  The M1 7-iron is visually appealing to me as far as the finish and overall look. Even though it is classified as a player’s iron, it doesn’t seem so tiny that it would be tough to hit. I am not a huge fan of the bright-yellow badging, but I probably could get over it. The iron inspires confidence with its topline and a little bit of offset. The “rubber” piece on the hosel is a little bit funky to me.

I thought the M2 7-iron would look clunkier than it really is. Besides the finish being a little bit different, the difference between the M1 and M2 is actually pretty small. The M2’s topline and sole are a touch wider, but not by much. Not a huge fan of the fluted hosel since it can be seen at address. The M1’s fluting is only on the rear of the club.

I did notice that the sole’s finish did scratch pretty easily. Overall, I thought the M1 and M2 are pretty good looking, but I would definitely give the edge to the M1. I also preferred the stock Lamkin grip on the M1 vs. the ribbed M2 grip.

On course action:  They both feel solid. I tried hitting both irons in all different types of on-course situations over a two week period. Both clubs launch the ball high but I would not say they balloon. For me, the M2 was about 10 yards longer and higher than the M1. Compared to my Cleveland irons, they are 1 to 1.5 clubs longer.

M1 loft = 30.5 M2 loft = 28.5 Cleveland TA7 loft = 33.5

I know this accounts for the distance gain but the ball definitely comes off hot compared to my set. I was hoping I would hit the M1 better since I like the appearance better, but that was not the case. The M2 definitely felt better for me and I felt more confident with it in my hands.

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TaylorMade PSi Irons Review

Having had Speed Pocket slots in the soles of irons for a while, last year TaylorMade introduced them on the faces of the RSi irons .

There were three models in that range and going forward, the larger headed RSi 1 set continues, which is good to see as that was the best of the bunch.

However, replacing the RSi 2 and RSi TP models is the TaylorMade PSi iron, which is promoted as a 'Players Performance' iron, hence the P for 'Players Slotted iron' in the PSi name.

The PSi still features the straight face slots as before, but it is in the head construction that TaylorMade has made big changes.

The Speed Pocket now features a cut through slot that connects with the undercut cavity to enable it to flex more and maintain ball speed across the face.

Married to this is what TaylorMade call a Dynamic Feel System (DFS) to cushion vibration at impact using dampening compounds and a multi-material badge.

The shape of the cut-through cavity and the amount of dampening changes as you go through the set depending on the loft of the club.

This it all does very well in a mid-sized head that looks good and feels good with a nice solid sound.

The top line at address is also midsized and I think any single figure golfer would be pleased with the look of these.

Especially as the relative head size is maintained through the set and does not get progressively smaller.

If they are too big for your eye, then there is also a fully forged PSi Tour iron coming with a slightly smaller head, narrower sole and a thinner top line.

Back to the standard PSi and the technology does not stop there as TaylorMade claim to have optimised each iron individually with whatever materials they can lay their hands on.

As part of this they have also fine tuned the lofts, resulting in all of the clubs except the 3-iron & SW having a loft ending in 0.5°.

TaylorMade did this optimisation thing in the RSi 2 set and I had my reservations about the flow of the set as a result, so I was interested to see how the PSi would feel as I went down through the set.

The 3 to 5 irons are reasonably sized for better players and feature a tungsten toe weight to improve the stability and this it does reasonably well. The sound and feel was not quite as hollow as before, but inevitably the larger cavity back in the 3 and 4-irons did have hollow undertones.

The sole slots and face slots continue to work together on the 6 and 7-iron and these irons were probably my favourites of the set as they were a good size, but the forgiveness made them excellent cast better player irons.

The sole widths were generous without being chunky and a small grind across the rear of the sole made it play narrower than it looks.

In the 8-iron the sole slot disappears and the head changes to a forged steel construction with face slots. This also feels a little better and it made me wonder why the whole set was not forged heads with slots.

On speaking to TaylorMade's Chief Technical Officer Benoit Vincent, I discovered it goes back to the 'optimum design for each iron' strategy. He said that longer irons need more ball speed so casting is better for that. Shorter irons need more feel so forging is better, but the trade off is a softer face and relatively less ball speed at impact.

To be fair TaylorMade has managed the performance gap well at this crossover point so that the distance gap between the 8 and 7-iron is the same as between the 7 and 6.

Finally in the 9-iron and wedges, the face slots go too and you are left with a fully forged head with a small cavity back that feels pretty good. With the dampening it sounds better than the previous forged wedges in the RSi 2, but it is not quite in the same league as a peripheral weighted forged blade.

Given all the changes in head style and manufacture, I was carefully looking at the flow of the set and I feel it is better than RSi 2. I accept that this is purely subjective, but the lack of a consistent head construction and material theme bothers me theoretically, especially switching from cast to forged heads during a set.

That said, the blend of cast and forged heads does work well and apart from the feel, it was hard to notice any difference in performance between the two styles.

The extra thought and materials that have gone into the PSi iron is reflected in the premium price and as ever, the proof is in the hitting. In terms of their own range, the PSi is probably the best forgiving better player iron that TaylorMade has done and it should be a strong challenger in this category.

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I love these irons but have also had a problem with the name plates on the back of the clubs. I was pulling my 7 iron out of the bag one day and cut my finger..... now almost all of the clubs have exposed edges from where the name plates have come away from the head, leaving sharp edges. I took them into American Golf who contacted TaylorMade. I was subsequently fitted for a new set of P790's free of charge and swapped them for my PSI's. I was given the choice of M3, M4 or P790's but having read the reviews on the M3 and M4's i chose the P790's. Taylormade know that it is a problem with the clubs and if they are still in the warranty period they should exchange them for a newer model as they are not producing the PSi's anymore.

The PSi tours are my favourite TaylorMade iron since the 05 TP CB. They are easy to launch, feel pretty good, similar to the AP2, and give impressive distance for a players iron. The short irons are awesome. I also had a set of the regular PSi and they were ok, but these are great. Super thin and compact.

Ditto to what Tom said above about the name plates on the back of these irons separating from the iron and leaving sharp exposed edges. Horrible design flaw. I got cut by one. Attempted to press the sharp corners on the worst ones back in, but then my 14 year old grandson got poked by one when he was using them. I have finally just started removing them completely as they start to fail. I am going to send pictures to Taylormade to see if they will do anything.

The PSi irons perform well, but they have what I consider a design flaw. The "Taylormade" name plate on the back of the irons tends to separate from the back of the iron resulting in a very sharp and dangerous exposed edge. There is a bandage on my right index finger as I type this covering the gash I got putting my 5 iron back in the bag.

I am 65 years plying 12 handicap and I have been playing with Taylor made R Blades steel shaft. Have just purchased a set of Psi graphite. Brilliant buy.

Being a blade player all my life playing off 5 handicap when younger but now into my seventies and now playing off 15 I was a bit worried when buying the PSi Tour irons but i have found them fantastic as well as being forgiving they have given me better ball flight and greater length than with my older blades. 100% great buy for me even though some of my friends were telling me I would not be able to handle them I am so glad to be proving them wrong.

Love these irons. Went from Callaway X to these. Thought I'd struggle with them but if anything has definitely improved my game

This set is good! Forgiving club for me was what I was looking for and they recommend this! They are an amazing set!

Much more forgiving than advertised. I used to play Taylor MC and then went to Callaway XR PRO. Tested the PSI in the store and wasn't totally convinced. I borrowed a set, after two rounds I'm sold! Easier than the MC with nice feel and awesome sound! This has to be the best balanced set, the A wedge is great, the long irons are easy and so long. Nice high trajectory coupled with the strong lofts give some remarkably long irons. Look=4.5, Trajectory=5. Feel=4. Sound=5. Accuracy=5.

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What's in My Bag: Nick Dunlap

P ressure is a privilege. I’ve always enjoyed feeling adrenaline. I’m driven by being in the moment. Whether you succeed or fail, you can learn from it. If you have an eight-footer to come in 38th, you’re not going to feel it as much as if it’s for the win.

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SPECS TaylorMade Qi10 LS, 9°, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green 60 TX shaft, 44.75 inches.

I started working with this driver about 10 days before the Amex event. I was in Florida and threw the TaylorMade, which has an upright lie angle, in the bag just for the heck of it. It’s unusual for me to switch so quickly, but it worked out.

The most compact of the three clubheads, the LS is designed for better players who like to work the ball and desire less spin. Noticeably sleeker is the sliding-weight track on the sole, which is positioned more forward and lower this year for increased effectiveness on trajectory and spin. It also weighs nearly six grams less. This weight savings along with the savings from the carbon face and body construction can be repositioned in the form of 19 grams in the rear perimeter for extra stability.

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SPECS Ping G425 LST, 14.5°, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw White 85 TX shaft.

This is a club I can turn over easily. When I need to shape a tee shot right to left, this is my go-to club. It’s a comfortable club for me, so if I need to get one in the fairway, this gets the call.

SPECS Srixon ZX (3-iron), Project X HZRDUS Black 105 6.5 shaft; TaylorMade P7•MC (4- through 9-iron), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 shafts, Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord grips.

Irons have to pass the look test. I’m used to this look. The leading edge gets through the ground really well.

What’s different in this model is the “PureFrame” design in which mass is forged into the clubhead behind the hitting area. That added thickness, determined by studying the iron impact patterns of the company’s tour staff, reduces face flex by 12 percent, providing the distance control of a muscle-back blade iron with more than a hint of forgiveness. A shorter blade height enhances control, allowing players the ability to flight short-iron shots lower. Turf interaction—always a priority for Srixon with irons—is enhanced with notches on the heel and toe areas of the sole that reduce resistance when exiting the turf.

This iron is likely the least complex in TaylorMade’s lineup, but it still offers golfers shopping in this category what they need. The club’s primary features are made for those with ball-striking skills, like a thin topline, minimal offset and a narrow sole that allows golfers to shape their shot. The face and grooves are machined as well for consistency on every shot. Given all of that, it’s no wonder this is the company’s most-played iron on tour.

SPECS TaylorMade MG3 (PW); TaylorMade MG4 (52°, 56°, 60°), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 shafts.

The bounce and grinds on my wedges are fairly standard, although for firm conditions they’ll shave down my lob wedge from time to time. I typically use about 8 degrees of bounce in my lob wedge and a higher bounce in the gap and sand wedges.

A clean design from groove to sole, the latest Milled Grind benefits from the machined sole shaping of its predecessors with enhanced spin. The grooves are the same as the Milled Grind 3 but have laser-etched diagonals on the flat areas between each score line to increase spin on partial shots and reduce spin loss in wet or dewy conditions. Redistributing weight to the perimeter on the higher lofts improves feel. Increasing the thickness of the flange in an area in line with the center of the face enhances sound and feel.

SPECS Odyssey O-Works Tank 7, 3°, Winn VSN grip.

I like the look of this putter even though the shaft has rusted over time. The insert in this is an older one, and I’ve used it on and off for four or five years now. It’s had its moments. The lead tape on the sole gives me the feel I want.

The Titleist Pro V1 is more consistent with my irons. I like the feel of the Pro V1x better on chip shots, but the spin, especially in the wind, is more consistent with the Pro V1.

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Playing in a Walker Cup was always a goal of mine. To be on that team at St. Andrews and come back the way we did was memorable. Plus, it’s a really cool headcover, so it stays on.

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Gear:  TaylorMade P • UDI, P • DHy utility irons Price: $249 each with UST Mamiya Recoil DART shaft and Golf Pride Z-grip Specs:  Hollow-body design with forged 41040 stainless steel face, vibration-dampening foam and tungsten weight. Available as 2-, 3- and 4-iron.

Who It’s For:  These utility irons are perfect for golfers who want a versatile club that can be used as a long-iron alternative. It flies lower than a hybrid but higher and farther than a typical long iron.

The Skinny:  The P • UDI and P • DHy are designed to be clubs that bridge the gap between a player’s last fairway wood and first iron, producing a hybrid-like distance with a lower ball flight and iron-style control.

The Deep Dive: Every golf has a gap that needs to be filled between the clubs they play off the tee on par 4s and par 5s (driver and 3-wood) and their longest iron. To bridge that gap, players have choices that include high-lofted fairway woods, hybrids and utility irons. For most players, hybrids offer a blend of distance and versatility that is tough to beat, but some players want to create a lower ball flight, so they shy away from hybrids and fairway woods and gravitate to utility irons. In windy conditions and on especially firm courses, a piercing shot that can be turned with a draw or fade can be handy.

For a decade, TaylorMade has offered clubs labeled UDI (ultimate driving iron) and then DHy (distance hybrid), including last year’s  Stealth UDI and DHy . For 2024, its newest offerings have been linked to the brand’s P Series in name and appearance.

The P•UDI has a traditional sole width and Speed Pocket slot. (David Dusek/Golfweek)

The P • UDI and P • DHy utility irons, with a soft chrome finish, look like extensions of the  P • 790  or  P • 770  sets. They share some technologies with those clubs, too, but the P • UDI and P • DHy are only available as 2-, 3- or 4-irons. They also come standard with a graphite shaft, indicating that TaylorMade intends for them to be played, in nearly every case, off the tee.

The P • UDI and P • DHy have each been designed with a forged 4140 stainless steel face attached to a stainless steel body, creating a hollow chamber inside each head. Like the 2023 P • 790, the back walls have thick and thin areas that create a honeycomb look and save weight, and both clubs have an internal tungsten piece that enabled TaylorMade designers to shift the center of gravity (CG) location. It is slightly higher in the P • UDI, which helps the club produce a lower ball flight than the P • DHy, but both clubs still create lower shots than a similarly lofted hybrid.

TaylorMade added a Speed Pocket slot in the sole of the P • UDI and P • DHy to help the lower portion of the hitting area flex more effectively on low-struck shots.

The P•DHy has a lower profile and longer blade length than the P•UDI. (David Dusek/Golfweek)

To enhance sound and feel, the P • UDI and P • DHy have SpeedFoam Air injected into the hollow cavity inside the head. It soaks up excessive vibrations but does not impede the face from flexing or reducing ball speed.

In addition to creating a lower ball, the P • UDI has a shorter blade length and less offset than the P • DHy, and TaylorMade claims the club is more forgiving than the P • 790. The company says the P • DHy is the most forgiving iron in its stable, including all the P Series irons and even the game-improvement Qi10 iron. In the address position, the P • UDI looks like a standard better player’s iron, but golfers will see some of the back of the P • DHy, but for many golfers, the sight may be reassuring and confidence-inspiring. 

Below are several in-hand images of the P•UDI and   P•DHy.

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Anyone remember the cleveland VAS irons? what was Cleveland Engineering trying to solve?

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Not only were they ugly, they had one of the worst Maltby playability factors ever. Something like 100 points.

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I think it was a secret project to see if occult technology could allow someone who averaged under 250 off the tee to win a major.

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Pavin's weird wrist action through the swing?

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I actually quite liked them, most went yuck but I thought they set up nice for me.....but I never used them as a set. Remember pavin using them to great effect and I think Cleveland said they were shank proof but in reality that wasn't the case.

I played them for a season or two right after they came out - but I can't remember why.

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I played them when they came out. The back had a substance under the label that reduced vibration you normally felt in cast clubs back then. When Corey Pavin switched from the VAS 792 to PRGR, I knew he was not going play as well. There was just too much of difference been the VAS and PRGR irons.

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The purpose of the design was to get the shaft (or the momentum of the shaft) going more into the center of the club head. The theory was that this would reduce twisting.

Many Hogan clubs featured an "underslung" shaft/club head design to accomplish the same purpose. The difference being that Hogan cared what the clubs looked like.

I thought I remember reading that Pavin played a highly modified version that didn't have nearly the amount of forward bend in hosel as the retail version. I could be wrong.

Either way these things are totally hideous and i can't believe they are real.

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These were just way ahead of their time. The shaft technology was not there at the time to take advantage of the engineering in them but it is getting closer now.

This was the era of the Tiger Shark and Spalding executive iron to name a couple of others. Happy times indeed!!

For the time it was an extreme and innovative attempt at a GI or SGI iron.. move the hosel back to avoid issues there, move the weight to the perimeter, heel and down as much as possible, dampen the strike area (ala the badge) to soften the strike, camber the sole to reduce digging and maximize the progressive offsets to help the average golfer who fades the ball more times than not.

They were judged pretty ugly by most but.... IMO, they actually were a pretty darn good GI club for their time.

Corey sure liked them in 95'.

These clubs were before I started golfing but from what I've read their unique hosel was shank proof.

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I cannot speak to the engineering benefits, if any, of the unusual design.

I have a fairly strong memory that the unique design was a marketing ploy by the new owners of the company.

Roger Cleveland had sold the company to Rossignol, a large French (?) Sporting goods conglomerate who had a big market share of downhill skiing business.

The new design was intended to convey the message : hey look at me; i'm cool and exciting; you should buy me and be the envy of your golfing buddies.

As i say, i think the answer lies in the corporate history of the company in the early 1990's and an advertising strategy to raise the awareness level of the Cleveland brand.

They were named after their inventor: Vas Deferens

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I'd hit 'em.

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I actually have a set of clone heads like those in the garage. Played them back then but it was too easy to blame every bad shot on how ugly they were. Can't remember what shaft I had in them but the shafts got re used so liked the shaft better than the head design.

A buddy of mine played them a few years. One day we were at the range and one of the heads came off and went flying. He looked at me and I just said "leave it there". LOL He ended up having to re-epoxy all of the heads but always played quite well with them.If I recall he passed his PAT with those clubs but damn were they ugly.

They were very high MOI for their time period and very unusual for a company that had produced classic looking designs in the past. I saw them work for lots of people. They did not sell well at their original price point of $1000 for a set but began to sell reasonably well when the price dropped to $699(where many popular sets were priced). Corey played a modified version of the Pro version of this iron. For those that are commenting on Pavin's change to PRGR, the biggest problem was the PRGR shafts. He was contractually obligated to play the PRGR Shaft and it was pretty soft for his swing.

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I agree. I am going to suggest that these irons looked different than previous Cleveland irons (such as the 588s) since Roger Cleveland had already sold his company and was not, therefore, the guy who designed the VAS 792s.

Never had the irons, but I had a VAS driver. With the shaft more forward, it was a hard club to slice. I had a bad tendency to hook it, but man I could keep it low when I wanted to.

I was a freshman in high school at the time but I used the 1 iron as a driving iron for a while and it was very playable that way. I moved on to a set of 845's though.

I got a wedge for cheap and on hitting it the ball would always phase out to somewhere other than where I was aiming.

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Used a set for awhile in the 90s. At least a season

Or 3. Was able to hit draws wirh them for the first time. They were my 3rd set of clubs

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pretty sure the design came as a cold war hack from moscow.... the silent war against the hoard of gorgeous Irons made at the time... this was supposed to lure us all in to the comrade train of thought .....

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I knew a guy who played them and he hit them really well.

straightest hitting iron I ever hit. long irons are extremely eaisy to hit. even my wife bags a vas 1 iron

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And with that your wife emasculated hundreds of golfers.

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