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Voyages About Nothing: How Seinfeld Influenced Star Trek’s Legacy

| July 12, 2014 | By: Jared Whitley 25 comments so far

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Seinfeld is celebrating its 25th anniversary this month, and so TrekMovie takes a look at some of the connections between the groundbreaking sitcom and Star Trek .

Voyages About Nothing: “Seinfeld’s” Influence on Trek

Star Trek is “the ultimate male fantasy,” according to Jerry Seinfeld, because the bridge of the Enterprise had a comfy chair and a big screen TV. That is how he opened “The Apartment,” an early episode of the second season of Seinfeld (see video blow).

It would be hard to overstate the influence Seinfeld has had on popular culture. Of course, many have tried with this month’s 25th anniversary of the show – glowing effusively about how it changed television, shaped a generation, yadda yadda yadda.

During Seinfeld’s run from July 1989, through to May 1998, the show produced 180 episodes. In the same period Star Trek produced 399 episodes of Next Generation , Deep Space Nine and Voyager . And during that period there was a lot of creative crossover between Seinfeld and the TNG-era shows.

The most high profile was when Seinfeld star Jason Alexander guest starred on Voyager episode "Think Tank." As this UPN promo notes, "he may look familiar, but there is nothing funny about him."

Alexander broke from the George Costanza mold of playing a short, stocky, slow-witted bald man chasing women out of his league to play a short, stocky, quick-witted alien chasing Seven of Nine .

An avid Trek fan, Alexander has talked about how William Shatner has been his acting role model , and he does an excellent Shatner .  He even hosted the 1999 UPN special "Ultimate Trek: Star Trek’s Greatest Moments" (see promo below). 

But Alexander is only the tip of the Trek/Seinfeld iceberg. His character George’s mom, boss, and fiancée also all appeared on Trek…

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George wasn’t the only one exploring the final frontier. Seinfeld’s Elaine seemed to get attention from future pointy-eared aliens, such as her boss, her boyfriend, and her psychiatrist…

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Jerry had his own Treks, dating a number of women from the 24th century. Here are just a few…

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Kramer had his own crossovers, including the most famous member of the Trek family to guest on Seinfeld – DS9 star Armin Shimerman, appearing as the title character in “The Caddy.” Endlessly resourceful, Stan the Caddy has the answer to every problem (as seen in the clip below) – but, ironically, costs Kramer a lot of money with bad advice on lawsuit.

The episode "The Caddy" is also noteworthy as it features Trek veterans Brenda Strong ( Rashella – TNG "When the Bough Breaks") and Phil Morris ( who has appeared in TOS, Star Trek III, DS9 and VOY ) playing the popular recurring Seinfeld character, attorney Jackie Chiles. All three Trek vets can be seen in the clip below.

And the above are just a sampling of the many people who visited both Seinfeld’s New York City and Star Trek’s future. However, the most important influence Seinfeld may have had on the Trek legacy is helping Wrath of Khan enter the popular culture. In the eighth season episode "The Foundation,” Jerry concludes Star Trek II was the best of the Trek films after a marathon viewing with Kramer (who likes “Search for Spock” better and claims to have a “katra”). The scenes below shows how this Khan viewing ended up getting George forced into the titular foundation, leading to the episode ending with the famous Shatner-esque explosion…

… which was then reprised a few episodes later in “The Susie” when Elaine does the same thing (see video below). By the way, Elaine’s coworker Peggy in that episode? Also a Romulan .

It’s easy to forget there was a time when the "Khaaan" scream ( which even has its own website ) wasn’t such a big part of mainstream culture. Did “The Foundation” and “The Susie” transform Shatner’s Star Trek II scream from a memorable movie moment into a “ meme ?”…Even before “meme” was even a thing.

In other words, when JJ Abrams decided to do this…

….maybe he was referencing Seinfeld .

It’s hard to believe that it’s been 25 years since I first began watching Seinfeld. And it’s nice to know how influential it has become in pop-culture.

Wow, I had no idea there was this much cross-over.

The VOY episode with Jason Alexander is actually one of the more memorable episodes of that series. He was very good in it.

There are memorable episodes of Voyager?

@3 okay, c’mon, Voyager doesn’t deserve the rap it gets. Was it great? No, no, but admit it – we were all getting a little oversaturated and complacent with all the Trek out there, and Voyager was just a case of bad timing. Heck, if nothing else it was an effort to force writers to come up with a story where we weren’t constantly fallling back to Starfleet Command for marching orders or to Wesley for saving the ship or what ever.

Trek was always about something. So was Seinfeld.

Not so much a crossover but the reality that actors like to work. I think you will find actors have been in many shows other than Seinfeld and Star Trek. The industry term for this is “An acting gig that pays, because there may not be work next week”

I’m still not too sure on the influence your talking about. I don’t remember the Sienfeld episode where they turned Jerry’s apartment into a star ship and changed the show from being about (funny) selfish self centered people to one of exploration of the galaxy.

ST has such a skill for claiming its the center for advancing humanity singled handedly. A comedian made a few jokes and we hear “never would have happened without ST see that rectangle? world would never have had rectangles if it wasn’t for ST. A reference is a reference calm down and get some perspective.

@7 There’s a pretty substantive difference between a casual mention perhaps one or two times in the course of a show’s history, but it was clear there was deliberate effort to integrate Trek in a humorous, almost friendly satirical way. You didn’t hear Seinfeld talking about, say, Happy Days or Dukes of Hazzard, did you?

While I might agree that the acting parallels may be a bit of a stretch, surely Alexander didn’t *have* to take the Trek gig. And we also know some then-notorious actors who were arguably put on the map essentially distance themselves from it – Kirstie Alley.

Point being that it’s a nice crossover piece that’s not without merit. A stretch at times, maybe, but a fun, interesting piece, and I for one always enjoy knowing about clever references to Trek in other media. It’s just fun.

This is a really stupid article. It is supposed to be about how Star Trek was influenced by Seinfeld, but some of these actors were on Trek first. Several of these actors were also in Murder She Wrote and Beauty and the Beast. Did Cabot Cove influence Star Trek too? Look at the filmography of any character actor and you’ll see that they’ve guest stared in dozens of shows. Pick any two long running television shows that cover the same time period and you’ll find numerous actors that played in both. Does that mean one influenced the other? No, there are just a limited number of good character actors available at any given time.

EXCELLENT!! =D

…like a frightened turtle… ;-)

Thanks! I enjoyed the article and agree “Khan!!!” is a bit of a meme.

3. TrekMadeMeFat – July 12, 2014

Yeah. The one with Jason Alexander. ;-)

The one where Seven and the Doctor switch personalities/bodies is another that stands out for me. It’s the first time that we got to see how versatile Jeri Ryan is, and to very good comedic effect.

Don’t forget Matt McCoy who played Devinoni Ral in the TNG episode ‘The Price’, but also appeared as Lloyd Braun in Seinfeld.

They should have done their Seinfeld roles in the same makeup and costume as their Star Trek roles.

Correlation does not equal causation.

Not only was Shatner’s scream pointlessly referenced in STID, it was so badly done. Alexander’s and Louis-Dreyfus’ screams were better directed.

I had no idea there were so many Seinfeld actors on Trek. Or vice-versa. Though I could never take Richard Herd as Tom Paris’ father seriously, due to his Seinfeld role.

Lol “It’s a faaaake.” Ill never forget the first time watching that. Im thinking, “Shit! Sisko is fucked.”

18. Commodore Adams – July 13, 2014

They carry this on for 2 minutes too long, but it’s still funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4

Michelle Forbes (Ensign Ro) also appeared on “Seinfeld”. The episode where she hands Elaine a salad.

20. Red Dead Ryan – July 13, 2014

That’s right. She takes credit for the big salad that George buys Elaine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7R7RbuJs5Y

Yet another Seinfeld/Trek cross-over.

I’m shocked there not even mention of Family Guy or Robot Chicken?

I remember that a sci-fi magazine (can’t remember the title) had a short story with all the characters in the Trek world. I remember Newman gets assimilated into the Borg and likes it, Kramer makes shady deals with a Ferengi, and so on.

OK, just how did Seinfeld influence pop-culture?

I watched it, it was funny…. but a pop-culture influence?

ABRAAAAAMMS!!!! :O

(I hate that hack)

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Lloyd suffered a nervous breakdown after his work on David Dinkins ’ election campaign for Mayor of New York City was unsuccessful. This directly contradicts his admitted insanity from his use of the " serenity now " tapes. He also dated, for a time, Jerry ’s friend and former lover, Elaine Benes . It was Elaine who suggested the bad advice that may have led to the failed election campaign (" The Non-Fat Yogurt ") . Following the Dinkins campaign, Lloyd spent time in an institution after a dismembered family was discovered in his freezer.

Following the breakdown Lloyd became very paranoid. He helped Jerry’s friend, Cosmo Kramer , in his attempt to gain historical status for a movie theater. He also helped hook Jerry up with a chewing gum supplier in Chinatown (getting him almost one hundred dollars' worth of the stuff) and told Jerry and Kramer that Elaine should get herself a boyfriend when he caught her unfastening an antique button off movie historian Mr. Haarwood's shirt. Kramer stood up for Lloyd when a wise-cracking theater employee questioned Lloyd's sanity for wanting to eat a decomposing hot dog that appeared to have come from the silent movie era. (" The Gum ")

In the final season, Lloyd worked for a short time for Costanza's father, Frank Costanza , selling computers. He was a disaster in that line of work, the phone having not been connected the entire time that he was supposedly "selling" computers. His warning to George to get his father to stop using the dangerous 'Serenity Now' relaxation technique fell on deaf ears (" The Serenity Now ") . Though not confirmed directly by Lloyd, it is heavily implied that Lloyd's insanity drove him to murder; as George states: "I heard they found a family in your freezer" an accusation that Braun does not deny. He is subsequently fired from Costanza and Son Computer Company due to his sales being fabricated. He is never seen again...

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Christopher Lloyd ( born 22 October 1938 ; age 85) is an American veteran actor, voice actor, and comedian who played the role of Kruge in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock . However, he is perhaps best recognized for his roles on the television series Taxi and the Back to the Future film series.

Born in Stamford, Connecticut, Lloyd attended the prestigious Fessenden School in Massachusetts and later Staples High School in Connecticut, graduating from the latter in 1957. Since embarking on a career in acting, he has appeared in over a hundred film and television projects as well as over two hundred stage productions, and has become a highly recognized figure in show business.

  • 1 Famous roles
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Famous roles [ ]

Lloyd first rose to fame as Reverend Jim Ignatowski on the ABC (and later NBC) television comedy Taxi also starring Carol Kane . Lloyd won two Emmy Award s for his role as the lovable, burnt-out Ignatowski, one in 1982 and another in 1983. Coincidentally (as revealed in the episode "Jim Joins the Network"), Lloyd's character was a huge fan of Star Trek: The Original Series and resented NBC's decision to cancel the show. However, one of his qualms about the series was the Romulan Commander (in TOS : " Balance of Terror "), whom he believed "did things no Romulan would ever do."

On film, Lloyd is probably best recognized for his portrayal of the eccentric inventor, Dr. Emmett L. "Doc" Brown, in the popular Back to the Future movie trilogy (1985-1990) ['BTTF']. This role not only earned him a Saturn Award nomination from the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, but also granted him worldwide recognition and status as a cinematic icon. The BTTF film series co-starred Michael J Fox, Lea Thompson , Ivy Bethune , Jeff O'Haco , and Sachi Parker . He continued portraying Doc Brown in Back to the Future: The Ride and the live action segments of Back to the Future: The Animated Series . Several other actors involved:

  • Thomas F. Wilson as Biff Tannen in The film trilogy, the animated series and The Ride .
  • Neil Ross as the Biff Tannen Museum narrator in Back to the Future, Part II .

Lloyd reprised the role in 2010 for Telltale Games Back to the Future: The Game . The game includes voice work from Roger L. Jackson , who voices several characters including the father of Emmett Brown.

Outside of the BTTF franchise, Lloyd also played Emmett Brown in The Earth Day Special , which included Kelsey Grammer in the role of Dr. Fraiser Crane and Robin Williams as Everyman.

Another role for which he is well-remembered – and for which he received a second Saturn Award nomination – is that of the sinister Judge Doom in 1988's Who Framed Roger Rabbit , co-starring Joanna Cassidy and David L. Lander . He also had a memorable turn as Uncle Fester in the 1991 film The Addams Family and its 1993 sequel Addams Family Values , also starring Carol Kane. Both of these films co-starred Carel Struycken as the Addams family's butler Lurch.

Stage productions [ ]

Lloyd's first stage performance as a member of the Actors' Equity Association was a production of William Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream in 1961, co-starring Ellen Geer . He made his Broadway debut in the play Red, White and Maddox , which ran for forty-one performances in 1969.

In 1973, Lloyd played the title role in Peter Handke's play Kaspar , for which he won an Obie Award and a Drama Desk Award for Outstanding Performance. His subsequent stage credits include a production of MacBeth , Yale University productions of The Possessed and A Midsummer Night's Dream , and an off-Broadway production of In the Boom Boom Room .

From October 1974 through May 1975, Lloyd performed as Bill Cracker in the play Happy End at the Yale Repertory Theatre. [1] (X) When the play was brought to Broadway in 1977 (with Frank Kopyc working as a performer and understudy), Lloyd was unable to perform on opening night due to a leg injury sustained in a stage fall, and Bob Gunton went on in his place. Lloyd soon resumed his role, but had to do so on crutches. [2] [3] (X)

Lloyd's later stage credits include productions of Waiting for Godot , Oliver! , and the two-person play The Unexpected Man . His most recent Broadway production was Morning's at Seven in 2002. More recently, Lloyd played Pellinore in the New York Philharmonic's production of the musical play Camelot at Avery Fisher Hall from 7 May to 10 May 2008. The May 8th performance was broadcast nationwide on PBS as part of the Live from Lincoln Center series. [4] [5] (X)

Early film work [ ]

Lloyd made his feature film debut in 1975's Best Picture Academy Award-winner One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest , playing Max Taber, one of the inmates at the mental institute which is the film's primary setting. Fellow Trek alumni Louise Fletcher , Brad Dourif , Michael Berryman , Peter Brocco , and Vincent Schiavelli also starred in this film. Three years later, Lloyd had a supporting role in the comic western Goin' South , directed by and starring his Cuckoo's Nest co-star Jack Nicholson and co-starring the likes of Ed Begley, Jr. , Georgia Schmidt , and Tracey Walter .

The year 1979 proved to be a busy one for Lloyd. Not only did he join the cast of Taxi , but he also appeared with his Cuckoo's Nest co-star Louise Fletcher, as well as Dick Miller and Phillip Richard Allen , in the gangster drama The Lady in Red . That same year, Lloyd co-starred with Jeff Corey , Peter Weller , Noble Willingham , John Schuck , and Cuckoo's Nest co-stars Peter Brocco and Vincent Schiavelli in Butch and Sundance: The Early Days . Also in 1979, Lloyd joined John Savage , Ronny Cox , Richard Herd , K Callan , Michael Pataki , Phillip Richard Allen, and John de Lancie as part of the cast of the acclaimed drama The Onion Field .

Lloyd's notable film work while Taxi was still in production included the 1980 thriller Schizoid , co-starring fellow Star Trek alumni Richard Herd , Marianna Hill , and Craig Wasson ; the 1981 remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice , starring John Colicos and Albert Henderson ; and the 1983 comedy Mr. Mom , with Terri Garr , Graham Jarvis , Carolyn Seymour , Bruce French , Michael Ensign , and Derek McGrath .

After Taxi was canceled in 1983, Lloyd played the Red Lectroid John Bigboote (that's "Bigboo-tay" ) in the comic science fiction film The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension in 1984, co-starring with Butch and Sundance co-stars Peter Weller (in the title role) and Vincent Schiavelli, as well as Clancy Brown and Robert Ito . Since its release, Buckaroo Banzai has achieved a cult following and has even influenced other science fiction works: numerous in-joke references to this film have been made in Star Trek productions. The following year, Lloyd himself was part of a Star Trek production when Leonard Nimoy cast him as the villainous Kruge in Star Trek III . Nimoy initially wanted Edward James Olmos to play the part, but the role went to Lloyd instead.

Later films [ ]

Although he has been most inclined to perform in comedic roles, such as those of Buckaroo Banzai , 1985's Clue (co-starring Michael McKean ) and 1989's The Dream Team , Lloyd has often proven his versatility with dramatic turns in such projects as the 1995 crime drama Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead (which also featured Bill Cobbs , Don Stark , Tommy "Tiny" Lister, Jr. , Bill Bolender , and Bill Erwin ) and the 1993 drama Twenty Bucks . He won an Independent Spirit Award for his role as a bank robber in Twenty Bucks , which also starred Matt Frewer and Concetta Tomei .

Lloyd appeared opposite Paul Winfield in the 1993 adaptation of the comic strip Dennis the Menace (co-starring Bill Erwin). In 1994, he starred in Camp Nowhere , which featured TNG's Jonathan Frakes , Kate Mulgrew , and fellow Trek actors John Putch and Ron Fassler . Later that year, Lloyd appeared in and lent his voice to the fantasy film The Pagemaster , which also featured the voices of Patrick Stewart and Whoopi Goldberg , Robert Picardo , and Leonard Nimoy.

In the 1999 film My Favorite Martian , Lloyd starred as Uncle Martin the Martian, a role which TNG actor Ray Walston originated in the classic TV sitcom on which it is based. Walston himself also had a supporting role in the film, as did Wallace Shawn and Beau Billingslea . Other notable films in which Lloyd starred include Eight Men Out (1988, with Gordon Clapp , Kevin Tighe , and John Anderson ) and Angels in the Outfield (1994, with Neal McDonough ). In the latter, Lloyd played Al, the boss angel, a role which he reprised in a 1997 TV sequel called Angels in the Endzone , with Paul Dooley .

Lloyd lent his voice to several animated films, including Disney's DuckTales: The Movie – Treasure of the Lost Lamp (1990, with Richard Libertini ), Anastasia (1997, with Kelsey Grammer , Kirsten Dunst , Glenn Harris , and Andrea Martin ), and Hey Arnold! The Movie (2002, with Paul Sorvino and Vincent Schiavelli). In 2008, his voice was heard in the CG-animated movies Fly Me to the Moon (with Adrienne Barbeau and Ed Begley, Jr.) and The Tale of Despereaux (with Frank Langella ). He also did voice work for the animated features Foodfight! (with Greg Ellis ) and Delhi Safari (with Jason Alexander and Vanessa Williams ).

Lloyd appeared in a 2010 film adaptation of Jack and the Beanstalk co-starring his My Favorite Martian co-star (and DS9 alum) Wallace Shawn. That same year, Lloyd and Star Trek Nemesis actress Dina Meyer appeared in the horror remake Piranha 3-D , work they received through casting director and producer Alyssa Weisberg . Lloyd reprised his role from this film in the 2012 sequel, Piranha 3DD .

Lloyd worked with Jeffrey Combs on the fantasy film Dorothy and the Witches of Oz , a spin-off of The Wizard of Oz set in New York in which Lloyd played the Wizard. His recent films have also included Magic (with Greg Grunberg ), InSight (with Daniel Roebuck ), Last Call (with Diora Baird , Clint Howard , and Richard Riehle ), Adventures of Serial Buddies (with Christopher McDonald ), Mickey Matson and the Copperhead Treasure (with Lee Arenberg ) and Super Athlete (with Faran Tahir and Tony Todd ).

Television [ ]

Besides his role on Taxi , Lloyd's television credits include guest appearances on several popular series, from Barney Miller (starring Ron Glass and James Gregory ) and Cheers (along with Christopher Carroll and Kelsey Grammer) to Malcolm in the Middle and The West Wing . In 1978, Lloyd appeared in the mini-series The Word , as did Diana Muldaur , Nehemiah Persoff , Allan Miller , Jonathan Banks , and VOY star Kate Mulgrew.

Lloyd won an Emmy Award for his guest appearance on Road to Avonlea in 1992; among those who starred in this series were Star Trek guest stars Claire Rankin and Marc Worden . Lloyd and his Pagemaster co-star (and TNG star) Patrick Stewart appeared in the TV movie In Search of Dr. Seuss in 1994, along with Matt Frewer, Graham Jarvis, and Andrea Martin. In 1995, Lloyd was the lead villain of the short-lived series Deadly Games , of which Leonard Nimoy directed the pilot episode and was a creative consultant. TNG actors Brent Spiner and LeVar Burton appeared with Lloyd in two episodes of the series (Nimoy's son, Adam , also directed an episode).

Lloyd co-starred with Emma Thompson in the acclaimed, Emmy Award-winning 2001 HBO film adaptation of Margaret Edson's play, Wit . He has also lent his voice to such animated shows as The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy and King of the Hill (with Pamela Segall ). More recently, he was a regular on the FOX TV sitcom Stacked .

In 2007, Lloyd appeared in an episode of the CBS Paramount Television ' Numbers with Next Generation star Wil Wheaton . Their episode revolves around a science fiction/comic book convention, the set of which was adorned with Star Trek posters and memorabilia. [6] (X) In the episode, entitled "Graphic," Lloyd plays the artist of a rare comic owned by (and stolen from) Wil Wheaton's character.

In 2009, Lloyd had a role in the NBC mini-series Meteor , as did Jason Alexander and William O. Campbell . Lloyd was also seen in the short-lived Sci-Fi Channel series Knights of Bloodsteel , along with Gwynyth Walsh .

In 2010, Lloyd made a guest appearance on the NBC series Chuck , on which VOY star Robert Duncan McNeill was a producer and Bonita Friedericy was a regular. In the show, Lloyd played a therapist whom the protagonist, Chuck Bartowski, visits when the pressures of the spy business becomes too much to bear. [7] (X)

In 2011, Lloyd guest-starred on the sci-fi series Fringe , which was co-created by J.J. Abrams , Alex Kurtzman , and Roberto Orci . In 2013, Lloyd appeared in an episode of the comedy Raising Hope (with Ric Sarabia ) and in an episode of the series Psych , which stars Corbin Bernsen .

On April 5, 2023, Lloyd appeared as Helgait in an episode of the third season of the Disney+ Star Wars series The Mandalorian , which previously included appearances by Eugene Cordero , Clancy Brown , and Titus Welliver . [8]

Vincent Schiavelli [ ]

Lloyd has co-starred with the late Vincent Schiavelli at least eight times since the two of them first appeared together in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest . In addition to the aforementioned Butch and Sundance , Buckaroo Banzai , and Hey Arnold! , they shared the screen in the film Another Man, Another Chance (1977, also starring Michael Berryman) and three episodes of Taxi (1982-83). They later made brief appearances in 1999's Man on the Moon , a film depicting the life of their Taxi co-star Andy Kaufman .

Other Trek connections [ ]

Additional projects in which Lloyd worked with other Star Trek alumni are listed below:

  • The Black Marble (1980, with Robert Foxworth , Barbara Babcock , John Hancock , Jorge Cervera, Jr. , and Herta Ware )
  • National Lampoon Goes to the Movies (1982, with Elisha Cook and Dick Miller)
  • Joy of Sex (1984, with Jeanne Mori )
  • Back to the Future (1985, with Lea Thompson )
  • Miracles (1986, with Teri Garr and Charles Rocket )
  • Walk Like a Man (1987, with Megan Parlen , Earl Boen , John McLiam , and Ellen Albertini Dow )
  • Track 29 (1988, with Seymour Cassel and Leon Rippy )
  • Back to the Future II (1989)
  • Back to the Future III (1990)
  • Why Me? (1990, with Michael J. Pollard , Tony Plana , Jack Kehler , and Lawrence Tierney )
  • Suburban Commando (1991, with Tom Morga )
  • Radioland Murders (1994, with Corbin Bernsen, Ellen Albertini Dow, and Michael McKean)
  • Mr. Payback: An Interactive Movie (1995, with Frank Gorshin and Bruce McGill )
  • Cadillac Ranch (1996, with Jim Metzler and Kenneth Tigar )
  • Changing Habits (1997, with Teri Garr and Bob Gunton)
  • Baby Geniuses (1999, with Kim Cattrall )
  • Wish You Were Dead (2002, with Clayton Landey )
  • R.L. Stine's Haunted Lighthouse (2003, with Michael McKean)
  • Santa Buddies (2009, with Paul Rae )
  • It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: A Very Sunny Christmas (2009, with David Huddleston )

TV guest appearances [ ]

  • Street Hawk pilot episode (1985, with James Avery , Lawrence Pressman , and Biff Yeager )
  • Spin City episode "Back to the Future IV" (1999, with Alan Ruck )
  • Masters of Horror episode "Valerie on the Stairs" (2006, with Tony Todd )

TV movies [ ]

  • Money on the Side (1982, with Gary Graham )
  • September Gun (1983, with Sally Kellerman and Clayton Landey)
  • Old Friends (1984, with Stanley Kamel )
  • The Cowboy and the Bellerina (1984, with Antoinette Bower and Michael Pataki)
  • Tales from the Hollywood Hills: Pat Hobby Teamed with Genius (1987, with Molly Hagan and Wendy Schaal )
  • T Bone N Weasel (1992, with Graham Jarvis)
  • Dead Ahead: The Exxon Valdez Disaster (1992, with Bruce Gray and Bob Gunton)
  • Rent-a-Kid (1995, with Matt McCoy )
  • The Right to Remain Silent (1996, with Jack Shearer and Dey Young )
  • Quicksilver Highway (1997, with Matt Frewer, Raphael Sbarge , and Bill Bolender )
  • The Ransom of Red Chief (1998, with Alan Ruck, Richard Riehle , and Brad Greenquist )
  • Alice in Wonderland (1999, with Whoopi Goldberg)
  • The Big Time (2002, with John de Lancie, Pat Healy , and Dakin Matthews )
  • Admissions (2004, with John Savage)
  • Detective (2005, with Richard Riehle and Michael Shamus Wiles )
  • A Perfect Day (2006, with Jude Ciccolella )

Miscellaneous [ ]

Mark Stark is an impressionist whose repertoire includes Christopher Lloyd.

External links [ ]

  • Christopher Lloyd at the Internet Movie Database
  • Christopher Lloyd at the Internet Broadway Database
  • Christopher Lloyd at Wikipedia
  • 2 USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-G)
  • 3 Star Trek: The Next Generation

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10 behind the scenes facts about lost you never knew.

From the origins of the series to filming locations, here are 10 facts about the hit show Lost that you may not have known.

Despite its rocky ending, Lost will forever remain one of the best and most important television shows of all time. You can't deny the impact it has made on the television industry, the way mystery shows tell its stories or the way it brought together millions of people to discuss and theorize. And, like all great shows, the making of it is equally interesting. OK, maybe not as interesting as time travel and disappearing islands, but still pretty interesting nonetheless. And the story behind Lost is quite interesting indeed.

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These are ten behind the scenes facts about Lost you never knew.

The Show Was Conceived As A Fictional Version Of Survivor

By 2004, Survivor was the biggest TV event around. By September 2004 (when Lost first aired), Survivor had already aired eight seasons and had just begun its ninth. And it was still enormously popular, drawing about 20 million people per episode. This spurred ABC head Lloyd Braun to conceive of a fictionalized version of the show.

In other words, a story about a group of castaways living on a deserted island. In the end, he pitched the show as a cross between Survivor , Cast Away , Gilligan's Island , and Lord of the Flies . He probably wasn't thinking of time travel and moving islands at the time...

Lindelof And Abrams Lied To ABC Executives

When the series was eventually picked up, the writing duties went to J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof. The two wanted to tell an epic story involving lots of mythology, a single extended story arc, and unique island quirks.

However, ABC executives didn't like this idea and asked that each episode remain self-contained (much like traditional TV dramas of the time). Lindelof and Abrams "agreed," saying that each episode would stand alone and would not require knowledge of past episodes to be understood. The result was literally the exact opposite.

J.J. Abrams Was Not Heavily Involved

When it comes to Lost , many credit J.J. Abrams with its quality (and blame him for its eventual failures ). However, Abrams never had much to do with the series. He left midway through production of the first season to direct Mission: Impossible III and never looked back.

Lost is primarily the brainchild of Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who served as showrunners throughout all six seasons. In the end, Abrams only directed the Pilot and wrote just three episodes - both halves of the Pilot and the season three premiere, A Tale of Two Cities.

Lloyd Braun Was Fired Over The Pilot's Cost

As we established, Lost was conceived by ABC head Lloyd Braun. And it was Lloyd Braun who seemingly gave Lindelof and Abrams such incredible creative freedom. Unfortunately, a story conceived by Abrams and Lindelof does not come cheap, and Lost certainly didn't.

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At a time when most hour-long pilots cost $4-5 million, Lost 's came in at an incredible $14 million. Disney executives (the owners of ABC) were baffled by the extraordinary cost and fired Braun for greenlighting such a ridiculously expensive project. They didn't know it would become the biggest show in the world...

Jack Was Supposed To Die In The Pilot

Of course, Jack is now known as the primary protagonist of Lost . While it is largely an ensemble, Jack is typically seen as the "hero" and primary character of the story. And he was supposed to die at the end of the pilot!

Yep, the original plan was to kill off Jack at the end of the pilot as a way to swerve the story in an unexpected direction and defy audience expectations. However, ABC executives loved the character of Jack and Matthew Fox so much that they insisted that he live. Jack would eventually die...six seasons and 121 episodes later.

Many Characters Were Written Differently (Or Not Written At All)

Unlike most shows in which actors are cast to match the written characters, the casting directors of Lost let the actors shape the characters. Kate was going to be a middle-aged businesswoman but was changed to a young criminal.

Charlie was an aging rockstar well past his prime but was changed to a young rockstar on the cusp of fame. Sawyer was a slick, professional, and well-dressed conman but was changed to an uneducated redneck conman. And Hurley, Sun, Jin, and Sayid were either written into the script or significantly rewritten to help coincide with their already-cast actors.

It Was Filmed Almost Entirely In Hawaii

While Lost instantly transported us to an exotic island of unknown origin, history, and location, it was all filmed in boring ol' Hawaii (no offense Hawaii, you're not actually boring). The beach scenes were filmed on Hawaii's North Shore and Mokulēʻia Beach.  

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Various indoor locations (including the Swan and Hydra stations) were filmed on a sound stage at Hawaii Film Studio.   And many exteriors were filmed in Honolulu, which was made up and "Hollywoodized" to look like various American cities and international locations. The power of filmmaking!

Filming Took Place At The Sight Of The Xerox Murders

On November 2, 1999, a Xerox technician named Byran (not Bryan) Uyesugi shot and killed his supervisor and six of his co-workers. It was considered the worst mass murder in Hawaii's history, and it all occurred inside a Xerox parts warehouse.

Just five years later, said warehouse (now abandoned) became a makeshift sound stage and was used for the sequences set inside the Adam and Eve cave. That's just a little bit creepy and unsettling...

Evangeline Lilly's House Burnt Down During Filming

Due to her work on Lost , Evangeline Lilly bought a house in Kailua, a census-designated place about 12 miles northeast of Honolulu. Unfortunately, said house burnt down on December 20, 2006 - smack in the middle of the extended season three break.

Lily was filming Lost at the time and was unharmed, but the fire took her house and all of her material possessions. It certainly didn't make for a great Christmas present, but Lilly admits that the fire was "liberating," as it freed her from her "cluttered" lifestyle.

Emilie De Ravin Flew From Hawaii To California Twice A Week

As Lost was filmed in Hawaii, this put some considerable strain on the personal lives of its actors. Some, like Evangeline Lilly, decided to move there. Others, like Emilie de Ravin, had to make the best of it.

When  Lost was filming, de Ravin was married to Josh Janowicz. However, Janowicz remained behind at their Burbank home, and de Ravin flew between Hawaii and California twice a week to juggle her time between work and her personal life. Now that sounds like a straight-up nightmare.

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An Upstart Gossip Site With a Gentler Tone Is Making a Big Splash

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By Brooks Barnes

  • May 3, 2009

LOS ANGELES — The Web got something in February nobody knew it needed: another celebrity gossip site. Ho-hum and back to TMZ, E! Online, UsMagazine.com and the crowd of other star-watching sites, right?

Wrong. Wonderwall.com — created and operated for MSN by two Hollywood powerhouses, Gail Berman and Lloyd Braun — is a surprise hit.

The breezy site, which scrolls horizontally to emulate the feeling of flipping through a tabloid in the checkout lane, logged 6.4 million unique visitors during March, making it the fourth-ranked celebrity site, according to comScore.

Visitors spent an average of almost five minutes on each trip to the site during its first weeks in operation, looking at an average of 12.1 pages, “engagement” figures that far surpass those claimed by more entrenched sites like People.com.

“The numbers are so good that I frankly thought there was something wrong with the data,” said Scott Moore, the domestic chief of content and programming strategy for MSN, the Web portal owned by Microsoft.

The sizzling reception Wonderwall has received — advertisers include CoverGirl, Disney’s bridal business, Frito-Lay and Dove — shows how fast a mature corner of online media can change. Because celebrity sites compete with essentially the same photos and news nuggets, packaging makes all the difference. The hotly competitive sector has also trained fickle consumers to hop to the of-the-moment site, analysts say. Perez Hilton? So yesterday.

Indeed, Wonderwall signals that the pendulum may be swinging away from the kind of disparaging coverage doled out by Perez Hilton (actually a blogger named Mario Lavandeira). The site is sharper in design than in tongue: Ms. Berman and Mr. Braun saw an opening for celebrity coverage that fell between mean-spirited (TMZ) and matronly (People).

“We didn’t want to be nasty, and we didn’t want to be your grandmother’s take on celebrity,” Mr. Braun said. OMG!, a site distributed by Yahoo with content from “Access Hollywood,” has also been working this middle ground, and it is the No. 1 celebrity site, according to comScore.

Hollywood publicists say they like Wonderwall’s tone and design, which is heavy on pretty pictures and appears to sparkle as the cursor moves across various story boxes. Some agents are already funneling the site exclusive photos to help it make inroads. Alex Blagg, the creator of the VH1 Best Week Ever blog, is Wonderwall’s lead editor.

“We’re not looking for gossip sites to be friendly, just fair,” said Kelly Bush, the chief executive of ID, the public relations firm that has Jake Gyllenhaal and Amy Adams as clients. “If Wonderwall is open to fact-checking and sourcing information, it is a very welcome endeavor.”

Wonderwall has a lot to prove, but its early success has given Ms. Berman and Mr. Braun confidence to return to the spotlight — a bit. The pair created a media company, BermanBraun, after stormy exits from Paramount Pictures (for her) and Yahoo’s media group (for him). Since then, they have avoided the spotlight, routinely declining interview requests.

Hollywood has been curious about what Ms. Berman and Mr. Braun have been busy doing, in part because of their track record. Before she worked at Paramount — where she came up with the idea of doing the “Star Trek” prequel now arriving in theaters — Ms. Berman ran Fox Broadcasting, putting “American Idol” and “24” on the schedule.

Mr. Braun was previously chairman of the ABC Entertainment Group, where he had the initial idea for what became “Lost.” He was also a successful entertainment lawyer and manager, helping nurture “The Sopranos” for his client David Chase. Another client, Larry David, named a character — a bombastic lawyer — after him on “Seinfeld.”

Despite their résumés, they have sharply different personalities. He conducts a meeting slouched in a chair with his feet up on the coffee table. She sits demurely in a straight-back chair and takes thoughtful sips from a bottle of water. Where Mr. Braun can be dramatic, Ms. Berman has a quiet intensity.

“I had a little bit of a heart attack,” Mr. Braun said, speaking of Wonderwall’s horizontal design, something created by Paco Viñoly, the company’s Web designer.

“I loved it immediately,” Ms. Berman said.

What they share is a belief that the current Hollywood landscape offers an opportunity for savvy independent operators. Studios and networks are retreating to their core businesses, shutting genre units and trimming fledgling mobile and Web efforts.

BermanBraun, which also has four television pilots under consideration by CBS and NBC, at first approached the Internet like other traditional media entrepreneurs in Hollywood: devising Web versions of television shows. The two quickly realized that it was difficult to make such efforts versatile, scalable and profitable.

So they started thinking about the Web as an opportunity to create entertainment brands and then align with a partner for distribution. Mr. Braun and his team pitched Wonderwall to MSN, which had a scattered approach to celebrity news, and MSN pounced. (Mr. Moore joined MSN almost a year later, but was a welcome ally: He was Mr. Braun’s first hire at Yahoo.)

Wonderwall has become one of MSN’s more prominent offerings to advertisers, in part because the bar is low. MSN has been trying harder but its advertising revenue is still dwarfed by rivals like Yahoo. Still, analysts are impressed.

“To successfully introduce a new advertising-based product in this economy is quite phenomenal,” said David Hallerman, an analyst at eMarketer.

The site still has some bugs — pages occasionally seem to load very slowly or not at all — but it is still in its testing phase. Geraldine Martin-Coppola, who heads BermanBraun’s Internet division, says her team is trying more buttons and is making tweaks so users feel more comfortable with the horizontal scrolling.

The company has three more Web projects in the works, although it’s keeping them under wraps for now. “The Web is undergoing the same shift television did early in its history,” Ms. Berman said. “It was founded by engineers and then programmers came in. We’re the programmers.”

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