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Hello all, I know that you can travel the air version of the Super Deluxe to any stroke you prefer by the internal spacer. What I am wondering is, does the same apply to the coil Super Deluxe? I couldn´t find a used 230 x 65 in the past weeks that would fit my Slayer, so I am exploring other options. Thanks for helping!  

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You should be easily able to find a 5mm spacer for it, or ask your LBS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

stripes said: You should be easily able to find a 5mm spacer for it, or ask your LBS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Click to expand...

yes, you can do that  

Do you happen to have any pictures or know of a source which might have any?  

the spacer is the plastic disc underneath the bottom out bumper  

Thank you!  

Do you know if the sidluxe works the same way? Meaning - for shocks of the same length, they stroke changes are just internal spacers up to the maximum stroke for that length?  

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2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil

Reviewer: 6’, 170 lbs / 183 cm, 77.1 kg

Test Location: Washington, Oregon, British Columbia

Test Duration: ~4.5 months

Bolted to: Nicolai G1 & Santa Cruz Hightower

Blister’s Measured Weight:

  • Super Deluxe Ultimate Air (230 x 65 mm): 490 g
  • Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil (230 x 65 mm, w/o spring): 507 g
  • 350 lb spring: 410 g
  • Super Deluxe Ultimate Air: $599
  • Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil: $549 (shock only); $37 (spring)

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

RockShox gave the core of their suspension a major overhaul this year, launching new versions of the Pike, Lyrik , and ZEB forks , along with new versions of the Deluxe and Super Deluxe rear shocks, in both air and coil versions. Having now spent several months on both the air and coil Super Deluxe Ultimate, the brand’s more downhill-oriented Trail / Enduro / DH shock, RockShox has done a nice job of making a pair of high-performing, easily tunable rear shocks.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

Some Background Info

RockShox offers the Super Deluxe in both air- and coil-sprung versions, and in a variety of configurations with different feature sets and adjustments. You can check out our 2023 RockShox lineup article for all the details on the new shocks, but here we’re going to focus on the Super Deluxe Ultimate and Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil, as configured for my Nicolai G1, with the hydraulic bottom-out (HBO) feature on both, and with the “Linear” air can in the case of the air shock.

The damper design of the two is largely the same (though the details of the hydraulic bottom-out circuit differ, and the Coil version features an external HBO adjustment — again, check out our First Look for the rundown) and I’ve spent a lot of time with both versions on the Nicolai G1, plus the air version on a Santa Cruz Hightower, and have come away impressed.

When RockShox launched their new suspension lineup earlier this year, RockShox’s Chris Mandell and I set up my Nicolai G1, which serves as my long-term parts-testing bike, with the (excellent) new ZEB and a Super Deluxe Ultimate for review. The fork was immediately impressive, and the shock showed quite a bit of promise but didn’t feel like the best fit for the bike (which, to be fair, was effectively designed around a custom EXT Storia coil shock). The Super Deluxe felt consistent and predictable, and the damper felt like it was doing its job nicely, but it also felt like the G1 just wasn’t the best fit for an air shock of any sort.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

For one thing, the Super Deluxe Air is only compatible with the G1 in the bike’s shorter-travel setting; in the longer-travel one, the rocker link fouls on the shock stanchion about halfway through the travel. This is more of an issue with the frame than the shock, and having looked into it some more, it turns out that quite a few other air shocks have a similar limitation on the G1.

Between not being able to use the longer-travel setting and the fact that the G1’s linkage is quite progressive, the Super Deluxe Air never felt like the best fit for that bike — but again, I’d put that down to the frame itself, rather than any sort of shortcoming on the shock’s end. Irrespective of shock choice, I’ve generally preferred the long-travel setting on the G1; the extra travel feels welcome, given the bike’s intentions, and the slightly lower dynamic ride height in the rear (due to extra sag / suspension movement) makes the bike feel a bit more balanced and composed in faster, rougher sections in particular. So I was quite excited to try out the coil version, and after a couple of months with the Super Deluxe Air, RockShox set me up with its coil-sprung sibling so I could compare the two.

In the midst of all that, I also spent a lot of time on the Super Deluxe Ultimate Air that came stock on our Santa Cruz Hightower test bike, and that combination clicked much more promptly. The Hightower is both shorter travel and significantly less progressive than the G1, and the version of the Super Deluxe spec’d on the Hightower also forgoes the optional hydraulic bottom-out feature, deciding (correctly, in my opinion) that the frame itself was progressive enough to take care of things.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

Super Deluxe Ultimate Air

After a little fine-tuning on the Hightower, I settled into running the Super Deluxe with both compression adjusters at the “0” position (i.e., the middle of the range), which equates to one click firmer than Santa Cruz’s recommended baseline for both compression adjusters, and 178 psi in the air spring, very close to baseline for my 170 lb weight. With those settings, the Super Deluxe worked very well. The damper felt consistent and supportive without getting harsh on really sharp impacts; opening up the HSC by one click made the bike feel more plush, but it was blowing through its travel a little more quickly than I would have liked on really high-speed, medium-amplitude chatter (think a big mess of roots at speed).

It’s tough to say for sure, having not directly A/B’d the two on the same bike, but my hunch is that the new Super Deluxe can’t quite match the Fox Float X2 when it comes to small-bump sensitivity. The new Super Deluxe does feel smoother off the top and a bit more plush than its previous version, but I don’t think it fully closes the gap to the Float X2. But the Super Deluxe feels a little more lively without needing to speed the rebound up unduly and is substantially easier to set up — the work RockShox has put into that aspect of the shock has really paid off.

As with the prior-generation Super Deluxe, the climb mode on the new version is notably firm and makes a more dramatic difference in the climbing efficiency of the bike than most other shocks (and this is with the lighter “320 lb” tune on the climb mode; RockShox also offers a firmer 380 lb one). The difference is especially stark in comparison to the Fox Float X2 and DHX2, both of which have consistently featured a very lightly damped climb mode in the dozens of iterations that we’ve ridden at this point.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

And I’m all for it. As I’ve said repeatedly on here, there’s no law saying you have to use your climb switch whenever you’re pointed uphill, so I’d much rather have a switch that makes a big difference and turn it on and off as appropriate. Yes, a firmer climb mode such as the one found on the Super Deluxe does compromise compliance and traction to some extent, but on a super technical climb where that feels like a limitation, you can always just turn it off. The Super Deluxe’s climb mode does also open up and starts to move if you really hit something hard, but under more normal climbing conditions, it’s quite firm and composed.

The climb switch knob is somewhat stiff and not the easiest to turn (especially going into climb mode; coming out of it isn’t quite as stiff) but it didn’t give me any major trouble. Particularly on the Hightower, with its low-slung shock, activating the switch while on the bike was a little tricky, but by no means impossible.

And so I was overall impressed with the new Super Deluxe Air, particularly on the Santa Cruz Hightower, which just felt like a better fit for an air shock than the Nicolai G1 on which I first tried the Super Deluxe Air. It’s a consistent, well-rounded, easily-adjustable shock with an especially effective climb mode, and it’s easy to imagine it working for a lot of riders on a lot of different bikes.

When I reviewed the Fox Float X earlier this year, I said that the prior-generation Super Deluxe felt like the best comparison to that shock that I’d been on, and while the new Super Deluxe is definitely still competing with the Float X for use on a range of Trail bikes, it now feels like a more fully-featured, high-performance option. The Float X still works well, is even easier to set up than the Super Deluxe Ultimate, and does still have a slight edge when it comes to small bump sensitivity and plushness. But the Super Deluxe feels a lot more supportive when you start pushing it harder, especially as you start to firm up the high-speed compression adjuster (which the Float X lacks) to deal with bigger, harder impacts.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil

After spending a little while with the Super Deluxe Air on my G1, RockShox set me up with an identically-tuned version of the Super Deluxe Coil for comparison, and as I’d expected going in, the coil felt like a better match for the long-travel, super-progressive bike. Not only could I use my preferred 175mm-travel setting, but the reduced progression, better midstroke support, and improved small-bump sensitivity all felt like better fits for the bike, and it didn’t take me long to have the Super Deluxe Coil feeling very good.

As with the air-sprung version, the Super Deluxe Coil does an impressive job of balancing having an overall wide range of damper adjustments while still being straightforward to set up. There are only five settings each for the compression adjustments, with each click making a noticeable difference. RockShox’s new system of indexing all the adjustments to the middle of the range and having the compression knobs visually indicate their respective setting does make it easy to find a solid baseline setting (start at the middle “0” setting and go from there).

Discussing rear shock settings is tricky because they’re so dependent on not just the rider’s preferences, style, and the specific bike in question, but also the specific tune on the shock. But on the Super Deluxe Coil on my G1, I wound up running the low-speed compression adjuster at “0” (i.e., the middle of the range), the HSC at +1, and the hydraulic bottom-out fully closed.

The adjustable hydraulic bottom-out feature on the Super Deluxe Coil also makes a big difference in the shock’s performance, and the range of adjustment available is strikingly large. With the HBO in one of the lighter settings, I was definitely noticing some significant bottom-out events on harsher, flatter landings, in particular; firming up the HBO circuit made a big difference in just making those events disappear. It’s not so much that I notice the HBO doing its thing as I notice an absence of significant bottom-out harshness — which is just what I want out of it.

In thinking about whether or not to opt for the hydraulic bottom-out feature, it’s worth considering what exactly the HBO feature does. As the name would suggest, the idea is to add some bottom-out control to the shock, by adding additional compression damping in the last 20% of the stroke. But unlike increasing the spring rate / air pressure, or adding volume spacers to an air shock, the HBO dissipates the energy it absorbs as heat, rather than returning it on rebound. So adding HBO increases bottom-out resistance and makes the behavior more damped and controlled at the end of travel; if you want to add bottom-out resistance but make the bike feel more lively and poppy at the same time, you’re probably better off doing it through the spring instead.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

In the case of the Super Deluxe Coil, I think most rider and bike combos will be better off with the HBO feature, both because coil shocks are inherently less progressive than air ones, and because the HBO on the coil shock is externally adjustable, and feels very light at the open end of the adjustment range. Things are less cut and dried with the air version. Not only is there more control over bottom-out resistance via volume spacers in an air shock, but they’re also inherently more progressive and (very generally speaking) need less help with bottom-out resistance. The more you want to make the bike harder to bottom out and make it feel more composed and controlled near the end of travel, the more sense the HBO feature makes.

The notably firm (in a good way) climb mode from the Super Deluxe Air carries over to the coil version, and in that respect and most others, they really do feel like versions of the same shock that are separated by just the spring design — which makes sense, given their similar overall damper designs.

It would be nice to see RockShox offer 25 lb/in increment springs, as a lot of other brands have started doing, instead of the 50 lb/in jumps that they currently offer. The 350 lb spring that I’ve been riding is working well for me (RockShox’s Chris Mandell and I also tried a 400 lb spring when we were first setting up the shock but agreed it produced too little sag), but I’m also running the HBO fully closed to compensate, and would be interested in trying a 375 lb spring if one was available. And unfortunately, RockShox uses a larger spring inner diameter than a lot of other brands, making it difficult to try a spring from another manufacturer. Especially for lower spring rates, 50 lb is quite a large percentage jump from one rate to the next, and there are definitely going to be folks who wind up caught in between spring rates.

[EXT’s springs do fit, diameter-wise, but are too short for the Super Deluxe to preload since the threaded portion of the shock body is relatively short. A 75 mm stroke EXT spring and a small spacer should work on the 65 mm stroke SuperDeluxe that I’ve been testing, but I haven’t managed to get one set up.]

Speaking of EXT, I’ve also run their excellent Storia V3 on the G1, and while the Super Deluxe Coil can’t quite match the EXT in terms of just how effortlessly supple it is off the top, I’ve been impressed with how well the Super Deluxe held its own against the Storia. Both shocks do a very good job of performing consistently and predictably, and in particular, both can be run with fairly firm compression damping without feeling harsh or spiky on really high-speed, chattery impacts.

Compared to the Storia V3, the Super Deluxe manages to be both easier and more intuitive to set up, while also having a wider range of damper adjustments available (especially on rebound). On the other hand, the Storia is quite a bit lighter, with both the shock itself and EXT’s lightweight springs contributing to the weight savings, and does have finer adjustment steps on the compression damping settings for folks who really want to dial things in.

The Storia is outstanding, especially for riders who have a clear idea of how they want their suspension to perform, and are willing to put some time into fully dialing things in, but the Super Deluxe doesn’t feel like a huge performance drop-off and is a great option for riders who either find that effort to dial in their setup to be intimidating or simply don’t want to pay the premium price for the Storia. The Storia is also relatively noisy, with a fair bit of rebound slurp, in particular. I can’t say that it’s ever really bothered me, but the Super Deluxe is near silent, for folks who do care.

David Golay reviews the 2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil for Blister

Who’s It For?

Both versions of the Super Deluxe are very high-performing shocks that are especially easy to set up, particularly given that they also have a fairly wide range of damper adjustments and are tough to get feeling too far out of whack (at least if you’re starting with a reasonable base tune for the bike in question). The very most obsessive fine-tuners might want finer resolution on the compression damping adjustments, but I think RockShox has done a good job of balancing the total adjustment range with ease of tuning, and most people aren’t going to be left wanting finer increments between settings.

RockShox is covering a lot of bases with the Super Deluxe, with the pair of shocks intended for use on mid-travel Trail bikes through full-on DH rigs — basically, everything where downhill performance is ahead of minimal weight in the list of priorities. And especially with the newly-adjustable high-speed compression and optional hydraulic bottom-out feature, it feels up to the task. The Super Deluxe Air is, of course, heavier than most straight-body air shocks, but it still comes in at a reasonable weight and performs a lot better on the way back down than its lighter counterparts, and the Super Deluxe Coil is there for the folks who want to take that step up at the expense of a bit more weight.

The choice between the air and coil versions breaks down in typical fashion: the air shock is lighter, more fine-tuneable, and more progressive (even with the linear air can and no volume spacers); the coil has better small-bump sensitivity, a little more midstroke support, and is both more consistent in its performance across big temperature swings and doesn’t require periodic air pressure top ups. And of course, compatibility of the air and coil versions will vary depending on the frame you’re hoping to bolt them to, so check with your frame manufacturer if you’re not sure.

Bottom Line

The prior-generation Super Deluxe was already a good shock, but RockShox has made some major improvements to the new version, and it’s in the running for the best bang-for-buck option going for a great performing Trail/Enduro/DH shock at the moment. The new high-speed compression adjuster is welcome, as is the (optional) hydraulic bottom-out circuit, and the new damper design is smoother, more consistent, and less spiky at high speeds than the old one. Small-bump sensitivity is also improved, particularly on the air version.

The new Super Deluxe pulls off an impressive combination of being fairly tunable, with a fairly wide range of adjustment, while also being relatively easy to set up. It’s both a very good OE-spec shock that a lot of people will get along with out of the box and a worthy aftermarket upgrade for plenty of folks.

11 comments on “2023 RockShox Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil”

The usual superbly detailed review. Kudos.

RS spring jumps @50 pounds in the lower ranges are tough — reminds me of the current SRAM gearing jump of 42 to 52. Ugh. And why can’t shock mfgs agree on an ID? Holy reminders of the myriad BB standards floating around.

Personal preference on big bike shocks is for a fairly gentle “climb” setting. I want to be able to benefit from it on steep, chunky climbs, and always find RS too stiff. More of a forest road climb setting.

Thanks für the Review Im waiting for a super deluxe ultimate with a bearing eyelet beeing available aftermarket. Im sick of sending my x2 to fox because of air in the oil. I would love to get a 2023 SD instead..

Super alloy racing is one company that makes 25lb increment springs for Rockshox, however they are quite hard to find. They are also significantly lighter than the rockshox springs which is nice.

FYI Fluid Focus in the US has them in stock and is their main distribution channel

Excellent review as always. I’ve been pondering between the storia and the new SD coil and this gives some new insight to that decision. What tune did you have on the super deluxe coil? I have been hearing good things about the progressive rebound option but can’t seem to find the it anywhere.

Of you know a Tuner WHO will Just give you a retune, ie shim configuration , For you, your rising Style and Bike. Then IT should be even stellar and still super price Tag. I have a Tuner in Germany who tkaes less than 100 Euro For Complete custom retune and soome Forum Guys Take around 50. That would make the sd a perfekt fit With No Need For the storia.

By the way,there is a new Premium custom shock from novyparts france which only Costs 649 Euro,is Made in france,completely serviceavle at Home, uses usual Norm seals you can get everywhere,has hsc,LSC,LSR and hydraulic bottom Out completely tailored to your weight,Bike and You. Even the length ist completely customizeable. Only drawback NO CLIMB SWITCH yet. Bit Not everybody needs that. So it would come down to preference and If you Like that IT IS Not priduced cheap in asia

Any thoughts on Super Deluxe vs Fox DHX? They’re in the same price range.

What is the diameter of the damper shaft on the new rock shox super Deluxe coil? I’ve tried to look everywhere and can’t find it because I need one that is very strong because my old Fox DHX2 is only 9 mm and their prone to break with my yoke style suspensions on my 2020 stumpjumper. I need a strong thick one. Please let me know.

It’s a 1/2” damper shaft.

More to the point, RockShox expressly condones running the 2023+ SD coil on almost every yoke-equipped bike out there. The only two exceptions they cite are the Commencal Meta Power TR and the Specialized Kenevo.

I read the Rockshox website and they say only the 2023 coil with steel shaft is compatible.

That note about the steel shafts is new, but it’s only in reference to the couple of specific bikes where the normal one isn’t approved. The standard 2023+ shock is approved for most bikes, even with yokes.

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  • RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil Long Term Review

by Ross Demain July 21, 2021 1

Ross gives us his impression of the RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil rear shock after almost 12 months of abuse.

It’s a good few years now since coil shocks were purely the preserve of DH bikes. With the advent of World level enduro racing and 15 minute timed downhill stages, people started looking to coil shocks for the consistent, supple damping they offered.

With this upsurge in popularity came coil shocks specifically designed for enduro and trail riding, designed to pedal as well as descend. The RockShox Super Deluxe Coil range was introduced back in 2017 and was designed specifically (in the main) for enduro and trail bikes. The range consisted of three models with various specs, all of which included one key feature to make them more suitable for bikes that were designed to get to the top under human power – a pedal platform. 

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A couple of years ago RockShox updated the range of forks and shocks and re-named the hierarchy levels. The shock we’ve had on test is the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate. The Ultimate moniker is reserved for the top-end, race-driven products, and the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate has been designed to meet the demands of the latest and greatest hard-hitting enduro and trail bikes and riders alike. 

Based on metric sizing, and available in standard bushing and trunnion-mount, the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate is available in a raft of sizes to suit most current bikes. As well as simplifying things for frame and suspension manufacturers, according to RockShox the move to metric sizing also leads to increased bushing overlap, therefore creating better traction and durability in the shock. The size we’ve had on test is 230 x 57.5.

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As you’d expect, the Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate features external rebound damping but also low-speed compression adjustment. It also benefits from RockShox’s Counter Measure technology which is designed to completely minimise the breakaway force needed to get the shock moving, keeping it feeling buttery smooth right from the initial part of the stroke. 

RockShox also uses Maxima Plush damping fluid which is designed to reduce friction and wear whilst also keeping dampers quiet. The shock also features a ‘solid threshold adjustment’ which is a sort of pedalling platform that firms the shock up for climbing, without it being fully locked out.

The shock was being bolted onto a Santa Cruz Megatower, which uses a VPP linkage, and I weigh around 86kg. After giving these details to the guys at RockShox (and confirming things with an online spring rate calculator) I went with a 550lb spring in signature Boxxer Red. As it was going on a Megatower, the shock also featured a bottom bearing mount rather than a standard bushing.

Fitting the shock is super easy. Thread the coil onto the body and add the lock ring, then unbolt the old shock and replace the new – simple. Setting up the shock is just as simple with no air pressures to worry about. Once the shock is on the bike, turn the preload adjuster counterclockwise until there is no resistance, then add two full turns of preload. 

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The shaft has handy sag gradients printed on it so to check the sag you just push the bottom out bumper up, sit on the bike, and then see where it meets the gradients. You have a bit of adjustment with this by adding preload with the adjuster but this is limited to around 5 turns. If you’re not getting the required sag with this then it’s time to look at a heavier / lighter spring. The 550 lb spring gave me around 30% sag which is what I was looking for, with just the initial 2 set-up turns of the preload collar.

I started with the low-speed compression damping fully off for maximum plushness and small bump sensitivity and kept it there for pretty the full test. I did experiment with a couple of added clicks but always found myself going back to full open.

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During the test, I swapped the spring from the standard RockShox one to a Nukeproof Super Light to see if saving a few grams (about 100) would make any difference to the performance and feel, and also to see how easy it was to use a third party spring. Fitting the spring was as easy as the original with the only difference being the use of a plastic spacer with the Nukeproof spring to get the correct sizing, and when riding I couldn’t discern a difference between either spring.

On the Trail

I’ve had the Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil in use now for the best part of 12 months, although I’ve used and tested some other shocks within this time.  From the first ride though the performance was noticeable. While the performance of the air shock that had been on the bike previously had been good, with the coil shock fitted the bar was raised.

The Megatower (especially in low setting) has quite a progressive suspension and feels best when being really pushed. Adding the coil into the mix slightly softened the overall feel of the bike, not making it wallowy, but making the suspension feel like it was working more, and better, even when not at 110%.

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It’s really plush off the top and sits into its stroke nicely giving it great small bump sensitivity and letting it track the ground over rough sections of rock, and adding grip on off-camber roots. While it weighs almost exactly double the air shock, the additional weight isn’t noticeable for climbing and the increased sensitivity adds grip on steep, loose climbs. The pedal platform does what it needs to do but with the VPP of the Megatower , I never had to use it.

Big hits are despatched with ease and despite my best efforts bottoming the bike on shady drops, there’s no harshness or awkward rebounds from the shock. Pushing into turns there’s plenty of support and grip for railing round or cutting inside. 

On fast and rough trails, the sort that is carpeted with roots and rocks, the added plushness of the shock lets you maintain speed without getting hung up or bounced around off line, yet remains supportive enough for loading up and gapping sections. Although to be honest, you can just plough through most stuff!

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After the best part of 12 months of use, the Super Deluxe Ultimate still feels as buttery smooth as day one and hasn’t missed a beat despite plenty of abuse in all weathers. It’s improved the feel of the bike overall and I really can’t fault the performance. 

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While coil shocks aren’t for everyone, and there is a definite weight penalty over an air shock, for me the performance gains are well worth the additional couple of hundred grams (and if you’re reading this you probably value performance over weight). 

There’s a reason that good air suspension is described as feeling like coil. The Super Deluxe Coil adds grip, and small bump compliance, and stays composed over the roughest of tracks. Coupled with great reliability, it’s a worthy addition for anyone looking push-hard on rough tracks and terrain.

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Ross pairs his childlike excitement for bikes with a complete disregard for the wellbeing of his ribs, or his rims. Best known for riding cheeky trails, his time is also spent trail building in his local woods, drinking beer, eating pies and entertaining his two children.

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How did you get on with rebound damping? Is there a good workable range?

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RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate 2023 rear shock review – a major step up in feel, control and easy tuning

Rockshox have completely overhauled their shock line up and the new super deluxe ultimate is a delicious lesson in control and inclusive tuning potential.

Rockshox Super Deluxe rear shock 2023

BikePerfect Verdict

Coil-like plush with air adjustability, awesome all-round control and next level tuneability at a great price. The new approach to low speed compression might not suit everyone though

Boutique feel at a decent price

Coil feel, air weight

Impeccable stroke control

Easy adjustment

Optional hydraulic bottom out

Some shock pumps can be a tight fit

LSC doesn’t work like normal

Stiff lock lever

HSC adjustment needs tools

Why trust BikePerfect Our cycling experts have decades of testing experience. We'll always share our unbiased opinions on bikes and gear. Find out more about how we test.

As part of its new 2023 suspension line up , RockShox has completely overhauled its rear shock models both inside and out, as well as adding new models. The new range is now made up of Deluxe, Deluxe Coil, Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil shocks.

I've been testing the Super Deluxe Ultimate shock and while the resulting control is undeniably awesome – however you like to ride – there are some aspects of adjustment that might not suit everyone. So what exactly have RockShox done to create one of the best mountain bike rear shocks available, how does that feel on the trail and are there any downsides?

For information on Bike Perfect's testing procedures and how our scoring system works, see our how we test page.

Design and specifications

At first glance the 2022 version of the Super Deluxe Ultimate follows the same piggyback damper layout as the previous incarnation, but the details are different up close. The air can is faceted externally top and bottom now and all the elements of the body have a much sharper finish than before. The low speed rebound uses the same 15-click concentric 'top of can' ring design for easy adjustment. The low speed compression (LSC) dial is now a big knurled dial on the end of a barrel that sits across the head of the piggyback chamber. This matches the Ultimate fork adjusters with laser etched '+' and '-' gradients and a proper clicker for the five-point adjustment. There’s a separate fat, stubby lever on the far end of the LSC barrel to give a climbing lockout too. Four-position high speed compression damping adjustment is then done with a 3mm Allen bolt. 

There are big changes internally too as RockShox introduce the RC2T damper. Like the updated forks, the main aim of the changes are to separate ‘cross talk’ between low and high speed compression adjustment for a fully independent feel. The DebonAir+ spring can now take volume spacers in both the negative and positive sides to tune feel. The bottom out bumper is ‘castled’ for smoother compression and there’s an optional hydraulic bottom out tapered needle in the shaft damper that ramps up resistance progressively in the last 20 percent of the stroke. Bushing overlap is increased for a structurally stiffer and stronger shock, but more sensitive movement and RockShox have upgraded to the latest Maxima Plush Dynamic fluid.

Super Deluxe Ultimate comes in both conventional and trunnion mounts and there are Select+ and Select models with the same base structure, air-spring and fluid changes, but without LSC and HSC adjust and LSC, HSC and Climb lever respectively.

Performance

With all the adjusters clustered around the top of the shock, the new Super Deluxe gives easy access to all the dials and the crisp clicks give a reassuring, quality feel to each adjustment. The machined ribs on the air sleeve make it really easy to unscrew the can for adding volume spacers too. The only potential issue is that the bigger, re-positioned LSC dial can be a tight fit with fatter pump heads, though I managed to get every type I tried threaded on. The climb/lock switch is also very stiff, so it’s not the easiest thing to move on the fly unless your thumbs are strong enough to pry on DH tires without levers.

The new separated low and high speed compression strategy from RockShox also requires a complete rethink to what's gone before – add some LSC to reduce sensitivity and pedal bob. That’s because (like the forks) the LSC makes no discernible difference to sensitivity from a pedaling/small bump POV and you’ll be clicking that blue dial back and forth wondering if it’s broken at first. Start riding though and the difference that dial makes in terms of cornering support and ride height are very clear. Those five clicks can turn a bike from feeling clean, bright and lifted to properly sucked down and grippy. While the preferred feel Venn diagrams for most riders will generally match across how much high and low speed compression they like, I deliberately ran opposing setups just to verifying the separation claims. Not only was there no obvious cross talk between the adjustments, but the overall range of feel adjustment (especially when you add in the positive and negative adjustment and the refined 15-click rebound span) is extremely broad without feeling there are extreme settings for the sake of it. 

Once I’d done my dial due diligence and just got on with riding the snot out of it, the background changes to the shock really delivered too. It’s hard to tell where the balance is between the more sophisticated, back pressure quietened damping circuits, smoother bushings and fluid, and better overlap in terms of influencing the feel, but the overall result is delicious. Whether you set it up coil-plush or racer efficient, it’s exceptionally responsive, quiet, calm and consistently impressive from patter bumps to horrible last run of the day hang ups. I toggled it between a couple of kinematically different host bikes – Pace RC295 and Canyon Spectral 125 and the results were equally impressive on each one (once I’d tuned the shcok to suit each bike). The hydraulic bottom out worked really well on the more linear Pace bike too, always cushioning the deepest slams without hammering my feet, although I’ll potentially be fitting some of the new purple spacers to get a bit more progression going forward.

Typically for RockShox it doesn’t overly punish a simple setup either so you don’t have to be an expert fettler to get the best from it. With so much commonality between Ultimate, Select+ and Select shocks, less nerdy riders could probably save some cash by choosing one of the simpler dampers.

RockShox’s move away from the traditional feel change of LSC adjustment from essentially a preload/threshold feel to deeper stroke support won’t be to everyone’s taste. Especially as the lock out lever is hard to operate and hard in terms of it’s effect too. Get your head round that though and the new Super Deluxe Ultimate is an absolutely superb feeling damper that can be setup easily to suit a very wide range of riders, bikes and styles – without punishing those who don’t want to invest excessive dial time. Despite the next level feel it’s still significantly cheaper and lighter than Fox’s Float X and Float X2 shocks too, making it a boutique vibe damper at a relative bargain price and trail-friendly weight.

Tech Specs: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate 2022

  • Price:  $599 / £578 / €648
  • Weight:  491g (210 x 55mm standard eyelet)

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Rockshox deluxe/Super Deluxe internal spacers.

  • Thread starter BillyWhizz2020
  • Start date Feb 23, 2021

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  • Feb 23, 2021

Does anyone know if the 210x50mm RockShox Deluxe/Super Deluxe shock comes fitted with internal spacers? I have a 210x52.5mm Deluxe which has a 2.5mm spacer fitted so I know by removing it I could increase the travel of the shock to a 55mm stroke. I was wondering if the 210x50 has 2 x 2.5mm spacers or not?  

  • Mar 12, 2021

I also want to know the answer to this!! Please anyone?  

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Yes it has a 5mm spacer, but I’m pretty sure it’s not user removable. May be wrong but I think it’s buried in the damper and can only be removed as part of a full service.  

Cool I imagine it's the same process as removing the 2.5mm spacer from the original shock. I did that a while ago and was pretty easy. Wondered because I can't find any super deluxe at 210x55 but if I could get a 210x50 and remove the spacer that's ideal.  

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  • Mar 13, 2021

@BillyWhizz2020 and @Davey S In a few weeks time I will have available for sale a RockShox Deluxe R Debonair, 210/55 mm Reference No. 26T82690395 New on 4th Jan2019. 14th Jan'20 Shock serviced by Sram (paperwork available) 6th Nov’20 Shock serviced by Sram. (----------ditto-------------)  

steve_sordy said: @BillyWhizz2020 and @Davey S In a few weeks time I will have available for sale a RockShox Deluxe R Debonair, 210/55 mm Reference No. 26T82690395 New on 4th Jan2019. 14th Jan'20 Shock serviced by Sram (paperwork available) 6th Nov’20 Shock serviced by Sram. (----------ditto-------------) Click to expand...

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The Moscow Metro Museum of Art: 10 Must-See Stations

There are few times one can claim having been on the subway all afternoon and loving it, but the Moscow Metro provides just that opportunity.  While many cities boast famous public transport systems—New York’s subway, London’s underground, San Salvador’s chicken buses—few warrant hours of exploration.  Moscow is different: Take one ride on the Metro, and you’ll find out that this network of railways can be so much more than point A to B drudgery.

The Metro began operating in 1935 with just thirteen stations, covering less than seven miles, but it has since grown into the world’s third busiest transit system ( Tokyo is first ), spanning about 200 miles and offering over 180 stops along the way.  The construction of the Metro began under Joseph Stalin’s command, and being one of the USSR’s most ambitious building projects, the iron-fisted leader instructed designers to create a place full of svet (radiance) and svetloe budushchee (a radiant future), a palace for the people and a tribute to the Mother nation.

Consequently, the Metro is among the most memorable attractions in Moscow.  The stations provide a unique collection of public art, comparable to anything the city’s galleries have to offer and providing a sense of the Soviet era, which is absent from the State National History Museum.  Even better, touring the Metro delivers palpable, experiential moments, which many of us don’t get standing in front of painting or a case of coins.

Though tours are available , discovering the Moscow Metro on your own provides a much more comprehensive, truer experience, something much less sterile than following a guide.  What better place is there to see the “real” Moscow than on mass transit: A few hours will expose you to characters and caricatures you’ll be hard-pressed to find dining near the Bolshoi Theater.  You become part of the attraction, hear it in the screech of the train, feel it as hurried commuters brush by: The Metro sucks you beneath the city and churns you into the mix.

With the recommendations of our born-and-bred Muscovite students, my wife Emma and I have just taken a self-guided tour of what some locals consider the top ten stations of the Moscow Metro. What most satisfied me about our Metro tour was the sense of adventure .  I loved following our route on the maps of the wagon walls as we circled the city, plotting out the course to the subsequent stops; having the weird sensation of being underground for nearly four hours; and discovering the next cavern of treasures, playing Indiana Jones for the afternoon, piecing together fragments of Russia’s mysterious history.  It’s the ultimate interactive museum.

Top Ten Stations (In order of appearance)

Kievskaya station.

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Kievskaya Station went public in March of 1937, the rails between it and Park Kultury Station being the first to cross the Moscow River.  Kievskaya is full of mosaics depicting aristocratic scenes of Russian life, with great cameo appearances by Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin.  Each work has a Cyrillic title/explanation etched in the marble beneath it; however, if your Russian is rusty, you can just appreciate seeing familiar revolutionary dates like 1905 ( the Russian Revolution ) and 1917 ( the October Revolution ).

Mayakovskaya Station

Mayakovskaya Station ranks in my top three most notable Metro stations. Mayakovskaya just feels right, done Art Deco but no sense of gaudiness or pretention.  The arches are adorned with rounded chrome piping and create feeling of being in a jukebox, but the roof’s expansive mosaics of the sky are the real showstopper.  Subjects cleverly range from looking up at a high jumper, workers atop a building, spires of Orthodox cathedrals, to nimble aircraft humming by, a fleet of prop planes spelling out CCCP in the bluest of skies.

Novoslobodskaya Station

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Novoslobodskaya is the Metro’s unique stained glass station.  Each column has its own distinctive panels of colorful glass, most of them with a floral theme, some of them capturing the odd sailor, musician, artist, gardener, or stenographer in action.  The glass is framed in Art Deco metalwork, and there is the lovely aspect of discovering panels in the less frequented haunches of the hall (on the trackside, between the incoming staircases).  Novosblod is, I’ve been told, the favorite amongst out-of-town visitors.

Komsomolskaya Station

Komsomolskaya Station is one of palatial grandeur.  It seems both magnificent and obligatory, like the presidential palace of a colonial city.  The yellow ceiling has leafy, white concrete garland and a series of golden military mosaics accenting the tile mosaics of glorified Russian life.  Switching lines here, the hallway has an Alice-in-Wonderland feel, impossibly long with decorative tile walls, culminating in a very old station left in a remarkable state of disrepair, offering a really tangible glimpse behind the palace walls.

Dostoevskaya Station

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Dostoevskaya is a tribute to the late, great hero of Russian literature .  The station at first glance seems bare and unimpressive, a stark marble platform without a whiff of reassembled chips of tile.  However, two columns have eerie stone inlay collages of scenes from Dostoevsky’s work, including The Idiot , The Brothers Karamazov , and Crime and Punishment.   Then, standing at the center of the platform, the marble creates a kaleidoscope of reflections.  At the entrance, there is a large, inlay portrait of the author.

Chkalovskaya Station

Chkalovskaya does space Art Deco style (yet again).  Chrome borders all.  Passageways with curvy overhangs create the illusion of walking through the belly of a chic, new-age spacecraft.  There are two (kos)mosaics, one at each end, with planetary subjects.  Transferring here brings you above ground, where some rather elaborate metalwork is on display.  By name similarity only, I’d expected Komsolskaya Station to deliver some kosmonaut décor; instead, it was Chkalovskaya that took us up to the space station.

Elektrozavodskaya Station

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Elektrozavodskaya is full of marble reliefs of workers, men and women, laboring through the different stages of industry.  The superhuman figures are round with muscles, Hollywood fit, and seemingly undeterred by each Herculean task they respectively perform.  The station is chocked with brass, from hammer and sickle light fixtures to beautiful, angular framework up the innards of the columns.  The station’s art pieces are less clever or extravagant than others, but identifying the different stages of industry is entertaining.

Baumanskaya Statio

Baumanskaya Station is the only stop that wasn’t suggested by the students.  Pulling in, the network of statues was just too enticing: Out of half-circle depressions in the platform’s columns, the USSR’s proud and powerful labor force again flaunts its success.  Pilots, blacksmiths, politicians, and artists have all congregated, posing amongst more Art Deco framing.  At the far end, a massive Soviet flag dons the face of Lenin and banners for ’05, ’17, and ‘45.  Standing in front of the flag, you can play with the echoing roof.

Ploshchad Revolutsii Station

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Novokuznetskaya Station

Novokuznetskaya Station finishes off this tour, more or less, where it started: beautiful mosaics.  This station recalls the skyward-facing pieces from Mayakovskaya (Station #2), only with a little larger pictures in a more cramped, very trafficked area.  Due to a line of street lamps in the center of the platform, it has the atmosphere of a bustling market.  The more inventive sky scenes include a man on a ladder, women picking fruit, and a tank-dozer being craned in.  The station’s also has a handsome black-and-white stone mural.

Here is a map and a brief description of our route:

Start at (1)Kievskaya on the “ring line” (look for the squares at the bottom of the platform signs to help you navigate—the ring line is #5, brown line) and go north to Belorusskaya, make a quick switch to the Dark Green/#2 line, and go south one stop to (2)Mayakovskaya.  Backtrack to the ring line—Brown/#5—and continue north, getting off at (3)Novosblodskaya and (4)Komsolskaya.  At Komsolskaya Station, transfer to the Red/#1 line, go south for two stops to Chistye Prudy, and get on the Light Green/#10 line going north.  Take a look at (5)Dostoevskaya Station on the northern segment of Light Green/#10 line then change directions and head south to (6)Chkalovskaya, which offers a transfer to the Dark Blue/#3 line, going west, away from the city center.  Have a look (7)Elektroskaya Station before backtracking into the center of Moscow, stopping off at (8)Baumskaya, getting off the Dark Blue/#3 line at (9)Ploschad Revolyutsii.  Change to the Dark Green/#2 line and go south one stop to see (10)Novokuznetskaya Station.

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